[net.abortion] Rights and Brains

mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah) (08/12/85)

> What makes us special is our brains, not our bodies.  You anti-abortionists
> remind me of socialists who like to argue that being a body is enough
> to guarantee you all kinds of amazing rights and priviledges.  Of course, if
> you are both socialist and anti-abortion, then you're consistent, and also
> very rare!
> -- 
> Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473

Brad,  think of what you just said for a moment.  You have argued that a
person's brain is what makes 'em special and therefore gives them rights.  I
would argue that all mankind, each of us being created equal, are entitled to
certain inalienable rights such as the right to life, the right to freedom
and the right to undertake endeavors which make us happy.  These rights must
be tempered with the realization that they may come in to conflict with other's
rights and therefore are not absolute.  Also, from what I know of socialism,
we as Americans have many more rights.  What amazing rights are you referring
to?
If people were given rights based on the amount of brains or the quality of
their brains, we would quickly lose the freedom we now enjoy.

Matt Noah

foy@aero.ARPA (Richard Foy ) (08/20/85)

In article <21@dscvax2.UUCP> mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah) writes:

>
>If people were given rights based on the amount of brains or the quality of
>their brains, we would quickly lose the freedom we now enjoy.
>
>Matt Noah

I certainly agree with this, even though I still don't think men should be 
involved in  any law making on abortion.
 
richard foy

js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) (08/23/85)

> In article <21@dscvax2.UUCP> mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah) writes:
> >If people were given rights based on the amount of brains or the quality of
> >their brains, we would quickly lose the freedom we now enjoy.
> >Matt Noah

    You realize, of course, that the current legal system *does* grant 
rights according to the quality of people's brains.  If your brain is
of insufficiently low quality that you (as a non-infant) cannot, for
example, tie your shoes, you'll probably end up in an institution, lacking
many rights.  If you brain degenerates to such a point that it can  
no longer generate *any* signals, you lose *all* your rights.
    Since the condition you describe exists, and we haven't lost our
freedoms thereby, I must conclude that your argument is baseless.
-- 
Jeff Sonntag
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