wine@homxa.UUCP (J.GORDON) (08/08/85)
>> Personally I think that a fetus qualifies as alive, as does a cancer >> cell, but I think that the carrier of either has the right to remove >> it. The concept of 'alive' is not so well defined as some think! > >This is an analogy? Cancer and a human fetus? [etc.,etc.,etc.] I was not making an analogy -- I was just pointing out that the concept of 'alive' is not straightforward and can not be used to distinguish the morality of an action (eg. to abort a fetus). To W. E. Deibert: Didn't your mommy ever tell you not to quote out of context? Jim Gordon, Jr. (JR not SR as has been reported) An open mind is one of the greatest attributes a person can have... But not TOO open!
ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank) (08/10/85)
> Personally I think that a fetus qualifies as alive, as does a cancer > cell, but I think that the carrier of either has the right to remove > it. The concept of 'alive' is not so well defined as some think! I think it appalling at best to compare human life to a cancer cell. This cell will simply grow out of control and disfigure, kill and mame. Why not compare human life to any cell at all, such as those found in human excretments. Since you have reduced human life to any arbitrary form of life, you can just as easily kill it as you would an ant or slug and never have to think twice about it. Cancer cells will never grow to hug and love you, appreciate your kindness, giveyou joy and happiness or fill up empty hours unless you consider the pain and horror of cancer as fulfillment. A cell does not life transcend.
wine@homxa.UUCP (J.GORDON) (08/27/85)
Me: >> Personally I think that a fetus qualifies as alive, as does a cancer >> cell, but I think that the carrier of either has the right to remove >> it. The concept of 'alive' is not so well defined as some think! Ray Frank: >I think it appalling at best to compare human life to a cancer cell. This cell >will simply grow out of control and disfigure, kill and mame. Why not compare >human life to any cell at all, such as those found in human excretments. What comparison!!!!!!! This is the second time someone has accused me of a comparison here. How about this: "Both human fetuses and human excrement are made out of molecules." This is not a comparison!!!!!!! Using a conjunction in the subject of a sentence does not imply a comparison. I am tired of being accused of making comparisons I did not make. Before making accusations, review your logic. Ray -- I wonder if you even read my original posting. ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jim Gordon, Jr.