[net.abortion] Personal Flame for Charles Forsythe

garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) (09/24/85)

> In article <239@tekig5.UUCP> david@tekig5Hayes.UUCP (David Hayes) writes:
> >Why is it the most outspoken and prolific writers in the 
> >pro-life camp (in this forum) are men.  I realize men outnumber
> >women by quite a margin on the net...

[answering his own question, of course]

> >... but where are the female counterparts
> >of the Pauls, Garys, and Mikes??

To which Charles Forsythe, in customary fashion, replies:

> They're at home, barefoot and (or course) pregnant.

Charles must think he is something of a wit.  (He's half right, of course --
get it, Charles?  In other words (in case you're having an unusually slow
day), you are a half-wit.)  And a jerk.  Try not to let it show so much.
One way to keep your jerkiness hidden is to keep your mouth shut when
you don't know what you're talking about.

Now, if you want to know some facts (which I doubt -- it so limits the
half-witted wisecracks available), my wife is at home, may or may not
be barefoot -- I usually take my shoes off as soon as I get home, too --
and is pregnant.  Now, so what?  She is home because spending time
with our daughter is more important TO HER than the extra income she
would earn, if she had full time employment elsewhere.  If she is
barefoot, it is because she finds it more comfortable than wearing
shoes (I never did understand the significance of being barefoot).
She is pregnant largely because *she* wanted to be -- I helped all
I could, of course :-), but her desire for another baby is very strong,
stronger than mine.

Does it bother you that my wife *wants* to stay home to take care
of our daughter, and *wants* to be pregnant?  (And are you offended
by bare feet?)  Or do you think that being at home and pregnant is
prima facie evidence that she was coerced into that state?  (To
anyone else reading this: please note that I am only at odds with
Charles Forsythe on this; I am not attributing these attitudes to
others.)

> I don't think they'd
> be allowed to use a computer if they knew how.

Listen, Creep, you can insult me all you want, but don't start on
my wife.  Your wisecrack (foolcrack?) above is an insult to my
wife's intelligence.  It implies that she is ignorant, and unable
to make any decisions by herself.

For your information, my wife has a BA in Mathematics and is a certified
teacher (secondary Math and Science) in three (maybe four) states.  She
also went to summer school for six weeks this past July-August, to improve
her teaching skills.

Furthermore (as should be clear, even to you, by this time), she does
know how to use a computer.  We have two personal computers -- an Apple
II+ and a Macintosh.  She knows how to use both of them.  And, of course,
she is allowed to.  Even our daughter (not quite 3 years) is allowed to
use them, under supervision.  Got that, Charles?  We're teaching our
DAUGHTER how to use a computer.

You owe my wife a public apology.

Gary Samuelson

csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (09/30/85)

In article <1000@bunker.UUCP> garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) writes:
>> >... but where are the female counterparts
>> >of the Pauls, Garys, and Mikes??
>
>To which Charles Forsythe, in customary fashion, replies:
>
>> They're at home, barefoot and (or course) pregnant.
>> I don't think they'd
>> be allowed to use a computer if they knew how.
>
>Listen, Creep, you can insult me all you want, but don't start on
>my wife.  Your wisecrack (foolcrack?) above is an insult to my
>wife's intelligence.  It implies that she is ignorant, and unable
>to make any decisions by herself.
>
>Furthermore (as should be clear, even to you, by this time), she does
>know how to use a computer.  We have two personal computers -- an Apple
>II+ and a Macintosh.  She knows how to use both of them.  And, of course,
>she is allowed to.  Even our daughter (not quite 3 years) is allowed to
>use them, under supervision.  Got that, Charles?  We're teaching our
>DAUGHTER how to use a computer.
>
>You owe my wife a public apology.
>
>Gary Samuelson

I will be more than happy to apologize TO your wife when she posts a
message to the net herself. I would never dream of apologizing to you
and I don't (not even for a minute!) believe that anything YOU say
necessarily has anything to do with what your wife would say. You have
difficulty understanding anything I have to say, and you're free to
re-read it as many times as you want. Why should I trust you to
interpret your wife, particularly since I have never met her.

Maybe you should apologize to my mother, Gary. After all, you insinuate
that she's a bad mother because she got a PhD in biochemistry while I
was a young child (after all, isn't a BA and some summer school good
enough for a woman?)

Go soak your head, Gary.

-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX

"Ordinary F___ing people -- I hate 'em. Ordinary people spend their
	lives avoiding tense situations; repo man spends his life
	getting into tense situations."

galenr@iddic.UUCP (Galen Redfield) (10/05/85)

[How's your thorax?]
Gary and Charles are at it again.....
In article <898@mit-vax.UUCP> csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) writes:
>In article <1000@bunker.UUCP> garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) writes:
>>> >... but where are the female counterparts
>>> >of the Pauls, Garys, and Mikes??
>>
>>To which Charles Forsythe, in customary fashion, replies:
>>
>>> They're at home, barefoot and (or course) pregnant.
>>> I don't think they'd
>>> be allowed to use a computer if they knew how.
>>
>>Listen, Creep, you can insult me all you want, but don't start on
>>my wife.  Your wisecrack (foolcrack?) above is an insult...
   <etc.>
>>
>>You owe my wife a public apology.
>
>I will be more than happy to apologize TO your wife when she posts a
>message to the net herself. I would never dream of apologizing to you
>and I don't (not even for a minute!) believe that anything YOU say
  <etc.>
>Maybe you should apologize to my mother, Gary. After all, you insinuate
>that she's a bad mother because she got a PhD in biochemistry while I
>was a young child (after all, isn't a BA and some summer school good
>enough for a woman?)
>
>Go soak your head, Gary.
>

Go soak YOUR head, Charles (try preparation-H for starters).

So  your  mother has a Post Hole Digger.  Big deal.  It means she passed
the tests of other PhD's (talk about self-serving).  Has she  ever  done
anything useful?

Your  parents  should  apologize  to each other (for producing you), but
only if  they  can  prove  they're  human.   You're  living  proof  that
abortions  must  be  allowed.   This  is not ad hominem, its ad juvenem.
(Pardon my pidgin Latin, I'm attacking childishness childishly.)

I tried to leave my abuse at the door, but it has a mind of its own and
it saw you were in here...

Never underestimate the power of an asbestos nightcrawler.