david@uwvax.UUCP (David Parter) (05/29/85)
Dear folks: I have some questions regarding hp 9836U (series 200) systems running HPUX. We have 3 of these, two of them up and running. I have many questions for those of you who have perhaps used these machines more than we have. 1) Perihperal devices: We might have the opportunity to install some additional hp devices. They are not listed in the installation manual as supported, however. Can any of the following be installed? Does anyone know about device drivers for them? * HP 7925 hard disks * HP 7970E 9-track tape drive * HP 2608A line printer 2) Graphics: The 9836U is suppossed to support graphics, using the DGL routines. We have tried using the demos supplied, but the screen initialization routine (ZDINT) fails, with an error of 2. ZDINT is not documented, although the other routines are. 3) Any interesting software? (Particularly graphics) I know this is a blanket request, and hard to answer, but so far no one has really done anything with the systems, and i am trying to get them more functional. replies to me, or the net, as you see fit. If anyone is interested, i will sumarize. Thanks, david -- david parter UWisc Systems Lab ...!{allegra,harvard,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!david david@wisc-rsch.arpa
david@uwvax.UUCP (06/11/85)
> re: 7925, 7970E and 2608A on HP 9000 Series 200 HP-UX (9836U)
thanks to everyone who helped out, especially Bob Niland. Now i have
a lot of things to try. I will let the net know when i have a success
-- which should be soon.
david
--
david parter
UWisc Systems Lab
...!{allegra,harvard,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!david
david@wisc-rsch.arpa
rjn@hpfcmp.UUCP (rjn) (06/13/85)
re: 7925, 7970E and 2608A on HP 9000 Series 200 HP-UX (9836U) > /***** hpfcmp:net.micro.hp / uwvax!david / 2:14 pm Jun 1, 1985*/ > I have some questions regarding hp 9836U (series 200) systems running > HPUX. We have 3 of these, two of them up and running. > > 1) Perihperal devices: We might have the opportunity to install some > additional hp devices. They are not listed in the installation manual as > supported, however. Can any of the following be installed? Does anyone > know about device drivers for them? You're right, they're all unsupported, but I'll tell you what we know about attempting to use them. "Unsupported" by the way, means: * Your local HP SE may not have the information that I'm posting here (I'm working on correcting this). So, if this info doesn't work, HP has limited ability to further assist you. HP field people are also not obliged to assist you with using unsupported peripherals. * If you discover any bugs related to unsupported peripherals, HP DOES NOT commit to correct them. * Your local HP CE has no diagnostics for this combination of CPU and peripherals. Consequently, HP can't write a service contract on this combination of products AS A SYSTEM. So keep the old computer on which these peripherals ARE supported, and make sure you have at least one supported disc on your 9836U. * HP has never tested this combination of products for RFI/EMI regulatory conformance (FCC/VDE). You assume responsibility for any interference the system might generate. > * HP 7925 hard disks The disc must be a recent 7925M Option 102 (master HP-IB drive), that is, a 7925C or 7925D drive with a 13037C or 13037D Multi-Access Controller (MAC) and 12745A HP-IB interface (in the 13037). A 7925S (slave) has no MAC. A 7925H (ICD) will not work at all, and earlier MAC discs (7925A/B) may not work. Recent-vintage parallel-interfaced MAC discs can be converted to HP-IB by adding the 12745A card to the MAC controller, but I wouldn't recommend this since I can't guarantee it will work. There is code in the boot ROMs (3.0 and 4.0) as well as the HP-UX 2.1 kernel which may be able to communicate with the 7925M#102. You must (and should already) have one each 98625A Disc HP-IB interface and 98620B DMA cards. Set the 98625A for interrupt level 6 (HP-UX will issue a warning that this configuration is unsupported). For the 'mknod', use block mode driver major number 2 and character mode driver major number 11. The minor numbers (which designate HP-IB address and unit numbers) are the same as for the 9121D/S and 9133A/B/V/XV discs. The number of blocks (for 'mkfs') is 115200. The disc is not partitioned. > * HP 7970E 9-track tape drive The tape drive must be a 7970E Option 426, 436, 626, 636, or 826 (all of which designate an HP-IB interfaced master drive). If it is a parallel-interfaced 7970E, you'll need to convert it to HP-IB with a 26072A kit. Some older HP-IB drives may need an upgrade to the latest HP-IB interface. If you install the tape drive in a 26078A cabinet, congratulations!, you now have a supported 7971A tape drive. > * HP 2608A line printer The printer must be the 2608A Option 046 HP-IB interfaced version. If it is the parallel-differential version, you'll need to convert it with a 26002A Option 046 kit (I wouldn't recommend this, since I can't guarantee it will work). It may be possible to do simple space&print operations on this printer using its primary character set only. All other sets, VFC operations and other features require HP-IB secondary commands, not presently possible in Series 200 HP-UX. Try using the same mknod as for a 2631B/G, and if that doesn't work, then use the "dumb" printer driver. > 2) Graphics: The 9836U is suppossed to support graphics, using the DGL > routines. We have tried using the demos supplied, but the screen > initialization routine (ZDINT) fails, with an error of 2. ZDINT is not > documented, although the other routines are. Does the special file for the CRT have the same name in /dev as the name in the demo program? It didn't when I tried this on my system a few weeks ago. By the way, if you have either RCS or AMS software support services, you can (and should) direct questions about supported products to your HP response center. The net is a very slow way to get questions answered. Regards, Hewlett-Packard Bob Niland 3404 East Harmony Road hplabs!hpfcla!rjn Fort Collins CO 80525 This response does not represent the official position of the Hewlett-Packard Company. The above data is provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
fritz@hpfclp.UUCP (06/18/85)
I might be able to answer part of your question. ZDINT is, indeed, documented -- but not in the same manual as most of the rest of the graphics routines. This is because the DGL graphics library is supported on several HP operating systems, and they all have different means of talking to devices. ZDINT and other system-specific routines are documented in a separate manual, the "Device-independent Graphics Library: Supplement for HP-UX Systems" (HP Part# 97084-90001). This is a fairly slim manual which may have gone unnoticed in the stack of documentation. According to this manual, an error return of 2 means the requested graphics display device is not available. Check that your device file is created correctly, the name is specified correctly (it's a bit clumsy since they used FORTRAN "string" conventions), and that the graphics device is OK. Good luck! Gary Fritz Hewlett Packard {ihnp4,hplabs}!hpfcla!fritz