[net.micro.hp] Integrals, anyone?

jmorton@iris.berkeley.edu (08/25/86)

Does anyone have an HP Integral?  I never hear or read any mention of this
machine in the micro literature - seems it has never caught on.

Topics of interest to me:
- programs in the public domain
- info. & details for porting stuff to the Integral
- HP BASIC usage & syntax
- means of using other peripherals than HP's (e.g. hard disk, modem)
- anything cheap that will plug into the HPIB port
- rumors & gossip
- Is Interex worth it for the Integral user?
- Is there anyone at HP who uses one & answers questions?

Your help is greatly appreciated!

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rer@hpfclj.HP.COM (Rob Robason) (08/30/86)

> Does anyone have an HP Integral?  I never hear or read any mention of
> this machine in the micro literature - seems it has never caught on.

I don't own one, but have played around with it a little.

> - programs in the public domain
> - info. & details for porting stuff to the Integral

The latest version has a system V kernel in ROM.  AT&T oriented (i.e.
not sockets) code should port trivially.  HP has a technical software
catalog that lists many of the 3rd Party software available.  Your
local HP sales office should be able to tell you how to get one.

> - HP BASIC usage & syntax

Same as the HP 85, if you know about that. REALLY nice, with real-time
instrument control; almost as nice as the HP200/300 (9836), but not as
fast.

> - means of using other peripherals than HP's (e.g. hard disk, modem)

RS 232 is available, no SCSI I/F.

> - anything cheap that will plug into the HPIB port

How cheap?

> - Is there anyone at HP who uses one & answers questions?

Me.
There was a really nice write up in the March '85 UNIX/World when it was
introduced (with System III).

Rob Robason, HP SSO (Systems Software Operation), Fort Collins
(hplabs|ihnp4|hpfcse|csu-cs|hpbbn)!hpfcla!rer

karen@hp-pcd.UUCP (karen) (09/02/86)

	Most of the original software team for the Integral and the 
people who continue to support it read this notefile.  If you have
specific questions, try posting them.  Someone should be able to
answer them.  However, you will get support alot faster and surer if
you contact your dealer or sales rep.
	It is nice to see some notes regarding the Integral (good and
bad - at least it is being used :-)).  Also, if there are any Integral
users out there who are still using the Sys III roms, get the Sys V
roms.  We fixed some bugs and added some new features.  It's free, but
there is a time limit on getting it.  I am afraid I don't know when we
will stop offering it.

Karen Helt
Hewlett-Packard Company
Corvallis Workstation Operation
hp-pcd!karen

ken@hp-pcd.UUCP (ken) (09/03/86)

> /***** hpcvlo:net.micro.hp / jade!jmorton /  4:49 pm  Aug 24, 1986*/
> Does anyone have an HP Integral?
yes.

> Topics of interest to me:
> - programs in the public domain
> - info. & details for porting stuff to the Integral
> - rumors & gossip
> - Is there anyone at HP who uses one & answers questions?

In reverse order.  I am at HP in Corvallis.  Many of us here are glad
to answer questions.

As an HP employee I cannot begin/spread rumors about the Integral, but
I would love to hear your gossip.

The single best source of info. for the programmer is an HP product:
The Integral Programmer's Documentation,  Part #82865J.  It is bundled
into the C compiler for the Integral or available separately.
Though most people find porting is easy.  The Integral OS is
essentially SYS V.  (I hope you have the HP-UX release 5.0 OS.  It is
made available FREE to any customer who purchased the original HP-UX
1.0.0 OS.  See your copyright window at power up for release info).
Note also if you purchased the C compiler way back when this document
was not available then you may not be aware of its existance.  You may
also not be aware of the cdb debugger that is now shipped with the
Pascal,  FORTRAN, and C compilers.

There are many programs in the public domain.  I know of at least 6
discs full of freeware that are available to users.  Are you looking
for something in particular?  Games?  Kermit? ???

			-Ken Bronstein
			 hp-pcd!ken
			 (503) 757-2000

P.S.  More specific questions will allow me to better yield helpful
specific answers.

aglew@ccvaxa.UUCP (09/10/86)

> 	Most of the original software team for the Integral and the 
> people who continue to support it read this notefile. 
> 	It is nice to see some notes regarding the Integral (good and
> bad - at least it is being used :-)). 
> 
> Karen Helt

My question about the Integral, and I don't mean to embarass anyone or
be unkind, is: what went wrong? Why didn't the Integral take off? 
I remember how excited I was when it came out, but I was short on cash
then; now that I have the money, it seems that it would be silly to
buy a machine that nobody else buys. Are people like me, who would
like a portable UNIX machine, so rare?

If you want to respond, please e-mail -- I rarely read net.micro.hp

Andy "Krazy" Glew. Gould CSD-Urbana.    USEnet:  ihnp4!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!aglew
1101 E. University, Urbana, IL 61801    ARPAnet: aglew@gswd-vms