Gds@MIT-XX.ARPA (Greg Skinner) (10/30/84)
I don't have the original article, but I wanted to comment on a couple of things. First off, you weren't too far off in your estimates, Bandy, but there's a couple of things you overlooked. First of all, the VAX farm (the machines on the ninth floor of tech square) are not on the Chaosnet. They are on a 10 megabit Ethernet connected via a gateway to the rest of the ARPAnet, so they are part of the Internet. In fact, these machines are on net 18. Check the map between room ne43-503 and ne43-504 (*sigh* -- my old office). Secondly, a number of the machines on the Chaosnet are either lisp machines or terminal concentrators. I have a list of a few known Chaosnet machines which have actual users on them somewhere so I can get the details, but probably there are 50 machines less than your estimate. If the Athena machines are on the Chaosnet (at the time I was still at MIT there were subnets allocated for them but I don't know if the actual machines were connected, let alone up) that will bump the number back up. Otherwise, add them on as hanging off MIT's network (pick any one you like, as all are addressable from each other one way or another). I just looked at the latest version of the NIC tables and they are listed as being on net 18. Did you include CMU's local net/campus net? That will bump the number up. It's possible though that they are on the Internet already though (net 128). I don't know if the message has gotten out here yet, but someone mentioned that IBM's internal VNET should be considered part of the Internet also. Who knows what things go on on the other side of the water? (I'm referring to whatever nets lie beyond london-gateway). Also, what goes on behind coins-gateway? This is really a question for info-nets, so they're getting it. If someone has the original they should send it there also. Have fun gang, --gregbo Gds@MIT-XX.ARPA {allegra,cbosgd,ihnp4}!houxm!gregbo (UUCP) -------