[ut.vlsi] October 20 VLSI Forum Minutes

jayar@utcsrgv.UUCP (Jonathan Rose) (02/17/84)

             _M_i_n_u_t_e_s _F_r_o_m _t_h_e _O_c_t_o_b_e_r _2_0 _V_L_S_I _F_o_r_u_m

_C_h_a_i_r_m_a_n: Martin Snelgrove
_S_e_c_r_e_t_a_r_y: Jonathan Rose


1.  _M_a_r_t_i_n__S_n_e_l_g_r_o_v_e__-__T_h_e__F_a_i_r_c_h_i_l_d__E_L_E_C_T_R_I_C__C_A_D__P_a_c_k_a_g_e

     Prof. Snelgrove has sent away for a CAD package  from  Fair-
     child,  called ELECTRIC.  It costs only $200 and looks worth
     investigating.  It has the following features:

        - it has a hierarchical layout  editor  that  allows  top
          down design.

        - it will maintain  conectivity  upon  movement  such  as
          stretching (rubber banding).

        - supports  NMOS,CMOS,BJT,Bulk  CMOS,   Printed   Circuit
          Boards plus a mixture of the above.  (seemingly fantas-
          tic, but this remains to be seen)

        - incremental design rule checking - when you  change  an
          item in the layout it will let you know if this cause a
          design rule violation.

        - can be linked to ESIM (a relative of  MOSIM)  and  also
          MARS, which is a hierarchical switching simulator.

        - uses the CORE graphics package, and supports the AED512
          and the Ikonas.

        - claims that a 10,00 transistor design  was  done  in  a
          week, using ELECTRIC.

        - some of the recomended potential extensions to the sys-
          tem are: mechanical CAD, 3D CAD and 4D (animation)

        - work was done by the Artificial Intelligence people  at
          Fairchild in C/Unix.

        - Prof. Vinod Agarwaal at McGill (who has been trying  to
          get it running on Eunice on a VAX all summer) said that
          the code is "spaghetti-like".  It  just  goes  to  show
          that   some   programmers  can  write  FORTRAN  in  any
          language.

        - the license is for non-commercial  use  only,  but  the
          source  is available to all of U of T.  It comes with a
          manual and a library of cells.

        - it is not supported.











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2.  _B_r_i_a_n__T_h_o_m_s_o_n__-__C_M_U__D_A__s_y_s_t_e_m

Hubnet is currently purchasing three CAD programs from  Carnegie-
Mellon  university.  One of the programs is a circuit extracter -
that described in the 83 Design  Automation  Conference,  and  is
called  "ACE".   It  is reportedly quite fast. The other programs
are a  Wirelist  comparator  called  Gemini  and  a  Design  Rule
Checker.  Gemini is reportedly quite fast and produces CIF output
that, when displayed, will hilite netlist diferences.  Hubnet  is
also  obtaining  WOMBAT from Berkely, another netlist comparator.
Peter Boulton is actively engaged in soliciting tools from Berke-
ley.  Apparently  it  is now easier to obtain tools from Berkeley
than it was a year ago.  This  is  evidenced  by  the  fact  that
Waterloo has the entire Berkeley VLSI CAD distribution tape.


3.  _T_e_t__Y_e_a_p__&__W_a_i_-_H_u_n_g__L_o

Tet and Wai are working on a VLSI implementation of the VASTOR  1
bit array processor.  An NMOS and CMOS prototype has been sent to
Northern Telecom (via the Queens VLSIIC).


4.  _N_e_w_s__o_f__N_e_x_t__V_L_S_I_I_C__R_u_n

Jaro Pristupa reminds all that the deadline for the  next  VLSIIC
fabrication  is January 4/84.  All designs should be submitted to
him.


5.  _D_i_s_c_u_s_s_i_o_n__o_n__S_i_l_i_c_o_n__F_o_u_n_d_r_i_e_s

   - VASTOR may do 1 or more Silicon Foundry runs when it is con-
     vinced that reasonable results will occur.

   - MICROTEL PACIFIC RESEARCH is  a  Canadian  Silicon  Foundry.
     Simon  Fraser University in the person of R. Hobson is using
     the Foundry.  We have the design rules for that foundry.


6.  _1_6_0_0_0__W_o_r_k_S_t_a_t_i_o_n

Martin Snelgrove gave an  update  of  the  status  of  the  16000
workstaion:

   - there will be printed circuit board versions of  the  system
     in January

   - the boards will cost $2000.

   - the unity operating system largely works












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   - both the user and system software is still being worked on.

   - it needs a network - possibly HUBNET


7.  _V_L_S_I__R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__G_r_o_u_p

Martin Snelgrove gave some information  about  the  newly  formed
"VLSI  Research  Group".    It  consists of the resident Computer
Group Profs (Vranesic,Loucks,Zaky, and Hammacher), the  Electron-
ics  Group  Profs (Sedra, Salama, Snelgrove, (Holmes?)), and Prof
K.C. Smith, and CSRG Profs Boulton and Lee.  Prof Salama  is  the
chairman  and  Prof.   Snelgrove  is  the secretary.  (But can he
type?) A Brochure is being produced to fully describe the  group.
It's mandate is to

   - coordinate VLSI efforts

   - maintain a list of equipment available for VLSI research

   - Tax its members to obtain funds for more equipment

   - exchange and obtain software assests.