[net.religion.jewish] Bat Mitzvahs

scott@yale-com.UUCP (Walter Scott) (02/26/84)

Bat Mitzvah's at 13 in the US? That's not necessarily true; I personally
have never been to or heard of a synagogue which gave Bat Mitzvah's at any
age but 12, though I can imagine a Reform congregation changing something
like that for the sake of "equality."

The reasoning I always heard for giving Bat Mitzvahs at 12 instead of 13 was
that the Bar / Bat Mitzvah represents a coming of age and a passing into
adulthood, and since girls mature earlier than boys, they should have
the ceremony earlier.  Nothing "sexist" about it, just a recognition of
real biological differences between girls and boys.
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meg@sii.UUCP (Marta Greenberg) (02/27/84)

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At my synagogue (Conservative) girls had a Bat Mitzvah after 5 years of
Hebrew lessons.  Hebrew generally started in the 3rd grade, so the
Bat Mitzvah came in the 8th grade.  For most girls this was the grade
they turned 13, and the Bat Mitzvah was held near their birthdays.  For my
younger sister, though, 8th grade was the year she turned 14, and her
Bat Mitzvah was still held near her birthday.  (Her birthday is in December
and she was held back a year when starting kindergarten because the deadline
for turning 5 was October.)  Waiting an extra year agewise didn't bother her --
all her classmates had Bat Mitzvah's the same school year.  What annoyed her
is that her twin brother had his Bar Mitzvah the year before, when they turned
13.  If I remember all of it, my mom had wanted to have a big joint celebration
for them, but it never worked out.

Marta Greenberg, Software Innovations, decvax!ittvax!sii!meg

trb@masscomp.UUCP (02/27/84)

I'd like to inform all of you who might not know, and remind all of
you who do, that the concept of bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah are
simply the Jewish passages into adulthood for boys and girls
respectively.  The Jewish equivalent of turning 18 in the US.

Literally, "bar" means "son," "bat" means "daughter" and "mitzvah" means
"commandment."  "Bar mitzvah" means "son of the commandments," i.e. one
who is obligated by the commandments.

Becoming a bar mitzvah means that a man has the obligations of manhood,
he's required to fast on appropriate occasions, he may be called up for
an Aliyah (to read from the Torah), he must wear Tefillin when he
prays, etc.

NOTE WELL!  Being a bar mitzvah has NOTHING to do with whether your
parents gave you a party.  I don't know how many times I've heard
ignorant Jews say "I was never bar mitzvahed" as though the party had
some significance.  The ceremony is only an acknowledgement of what
happens whether you celebrate it or not.

So you are not bar mitzvahed, you become a bar mitzvah.  I guess
the same people who are bar mitzvahed, eventually graduate.  The
transitive verbalization (gak!) "I was bar mitzvahed" is most common
and accepted, as is the notion that the cermony is the "bar mitzvah,"
though "I became a "bar mitzvah" is proper."  Remember, you are the
bar mitzvah (until you die), the party isn't really the bar mitzvah.

	Andy Tannenbaum   Masscomp Inc  Westford MA   (617) 692-6200 x274

jt@druca.UUCP (TurnerJI) (02/28/84)

Bat Mitzvahs in the temple I was raised in occurred at age 13. 
The temple reformed and in  LA, Calif.
	Jeff Turner

jt@druca.UUCP (TurnerJI) (02/28/84)

Oops -> that was the temple was reformed (not the temple reformed).
Sorry.
	Jeff Turner

dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (02/28/84)

I don't think Andy is quite right in his statements about Bar Mitzvah.
There is in fact a religious ceremony - being called to the Torah for
the first time - and at that point the boy's father says "Baruch
she-p'tarani..." (roughly, "Blessed is G-d for having relieved me
of the obligations for my son"). Of course the party has no religious
significance, but being called to the Torah does.

Dave Sherman
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sb@linus.UUCP (Shimshon Berkovits) (02/29/84)

Andy is actually correct. Bar mitzvah is something a boy becomes on his
thirteenth Hebrew birthday; bat mitzvah is something a girl becomes on her
twelfth Hebrew birthday. Nobody has to do anything. (I am told that in the
case of my father, a reasonably well known Orthodox philosopher and theologian,
nobody did anything for several weeks. When it was his "turn" to be called
to the Torah for a weekday reading, he was quietly called. That was a matter
of several weeks later.)

However, once a boy reaches religious majority, he is elligeable to be called
to the Torah. It has become the practice to call him on the first oportunity
that arrises. If he comes to services only on Shabbat (Saturday), that's when he
gets called. It has further become the practice to make note of this recognition
of his becoming bar mitzvah by having a party. Unfortunately, the party often
becomes the main focus of the boy's passage into religious adulthood. He
becomes a bar mitzvah even if his parents have not told him he is Jewish.

				Shim