[net.religion.jewish] A BOOK ABOUT TALMUD

dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (GREEN) (03/08/84)

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I've noticed that Talmud subjects have been discussed at various levels
of understanding.  The *best* book that I know of that explains what the
Talmud is, its history, structure and content, and method of study is:

"The Essential Talmud" by Adin Steinsaltz
Available in paperback, softcover and hardcover
Bantam Books, Inc. 666 Fifth Avenue, New York , NY (paperback 1977)
Basic Books  NY  (soft and hardcover)

It is easily available in New York Jewish bookstores, at least the hardcover
version is.  If you would like more info, or if you need assistance in
getting a copy, please contact me.  By the way, the book does not assume
that you are Jewish or would like to be.  It is just a very readable book
aimed at a general audience.

David Seth Green
AT&T Bell Labs   phone 201-564-2290
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amigo2@ihuxq.UUCP (John Hobson) (03/14/84)

David Green kindly lent me his copy of THE ESSENTIAL TALMUD
(thanks, David, I am returning it today).  I can also heartily
recommend it to anyone who wants a good introduction to the subject.
It goes into history, Talmudic reasoning, summarizes each order (and
often individual tractates), mentions the major commentators (I
hadn't known that Rashbam and Rabbenu Tam were Rashi's grandsons),
and is well written and well reasoned.

One thing annoyed me.  In the chapter on "Strange and Bizarre
Problems," there is the sentence:  "A somewhat later text takes up
the mythical *golem* and asks whether such a being is entitled to
participate in a *minyan*."  And then, the question having been raised,
we are given no answer.  Someone, please tell me.  After all, as
Steinsaltz points out, this touches on the wider "problem of defining
man and his limitations".  If a golem is to be admitted to a minyan,
then I think that any being having artificial intelligence could be.
But what if the golem has a non-Jewish creator.  Could such a
goyishe golem convert?  I can think of all sorts of things that this
raises.  
				John Hobson
				AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL
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bleich@acf4.UUCP (Chaya Bleich) (03/15/84)

  John Hobson asked about a "somewhat later text that takes up the
problem of allowing the mythical golem to participate in a minyan,"
or something to that effect. My mother teaches a course in modern
Jewish history, and that source is one of the readings covered.
 The reference is Sheailos U-Teshuvos Chacham Tzvi, no. 93.
 The Chacham Tzvi rules that a golem may NOT be counted
 for a minyan.
  
    A Freilechen Purim!!

           Chaya Bleich
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