[net.religion.jewish] Prayer, efficacy of

rlw@wxlvax.UUCP (03/19/84)

In the late 1800s, a statistician published a paper (approximately) entitled
'A statistical enquiry into the efficacy of prayer' in which he posited
that perhaps the most common prayer in the British Empire was for the long
life of the monarch.  Therefore, if prayer is measurably effective, he
should be able to detect a lifespan for kings and queens of England greater
than that of nobles and upper class citizens.  In fact he discovered that
their lifespan (including only those who died naturally and whose dates
were reliably known) was below the norm.

Therefore, either prayer is ineffective or those praying were in some sense
insincere.  (??Don't Buddhists accept rote prayer as worthwhile??)  An
alternative explanation is that the prayer is contraindicated and was
effective but got a/the Deity pissed off.

A quick review of the limited figures indicates not too much statistical
significance.

This was, so far as I know, the only sincere attempt at applying scientific
method to religion.

--Dick Wexelblat (...decvax!ittvax!wxlvax!rlw)

flinn@seismo.UUCP (E. A. Flinn) (03/19/84)

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The statistician who looked at efficacy of prayer with respect to the
British royal family was Francis Galton; his results (which were
negative) were written up in "American Scientist" a few years ago.

amigo2@ihuxq.UUCP (John Hobson) (03/20/84)

About Francis Galton's study on the efficacy of prayer, when he felt
that the majority of prayers were being offered for the safety and
well-being of the monarch (see the opening lines of the British
national anthem:  "God save our gracious queen/Long live our noble
queen/God save the queen"), did he consider just how many prayers 
were being offered that "the old bastard would die"?

And just how fervent were these respective prayers anyway.  I know
that Buddhists hold that prayers offered by rote (e.g., prayer-wheels) 
are efficatious, but both Jews and Christians look at the intentions
of the pray-er.
				John Hobson
				AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL
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