[net.religion.jewish] Yom Ha'Atzmaoot on Monday

rao@utcsstat.UUCP (Eli Posner) (05/04/84)

I would just like to remind everyone that Yom Ha'Utzmaoot (Israeli
Independence Day), an extremly important day in Judaism, is on
Monday.

Out of curiousity, I would like to hear what different people do on this
day. Personally, I say Hallel WITH a brocha. ( I just heard that some
people even say 'SheHechiunu'. A Rabbi in Israel replied when asked
why he says 'Shehechiunu' : "I say 'Shehechiunu' when I buy underwear;
on the day when Hashem gave back Eretz Yisrael to the Jews after 2000 
years, I won't say it??????!!!!!!)

If there are any skeptical people out there ("Why should I say Hallel?"),
I have two things to say to you : 1) I have a desk full of books that
support me 100%  2) You have a lot to learn.

Any one who doesn't see the Nissim that are occuring and occured in
Israel in the past 36 years are either blind fools or 'Choser Emunah'
or both.

I have Mukorot (sources) in the Moken Avraham, Chatam Sofer, Mesechet
Mekilah and more. If I see a lot of interest, I'll post a shiur.


	Chag Sameach,

		Eli Posner
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Eli Posner
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teitz@aecom.UUCP (05/07/84)

 while there is reason to rejoice on yom haatzmaut for all the good G-D did for
us, i do not agree  with you  as to saying hallel, nor do i agree that  a person
who does not commemorate the   day is blind or missing in belief.
firstly, i see no reason to commemoratea day  that was marked by  outright
desecration of the  shabbos ( the  declaration of independence was signed
on shabbos). this is   hardly a  reason tosay  hallel!allel!!
also if you read perfidy, by ben hecht, who was killed  for his effort  
to  clear  up some misconceptions, by the israeli government, sheds some
light on the government that was responsible for thesetting up of the state.
it is hardly a reason to rejoice.
aside from all this, sefira is a time of mourning(  as i posted in a previous
article), and hallel is not in the spirit of sefira.
yom haatzmaut should be a time of introspection, to ask ourselves if we have,
over the course of the   past year, helped the jewish cause both in israel
and world wide, and how we can work harder in the future.
i realize , and im sure everyone does, that G-D  gave us a great gift when
the state was set up. however, the politicians in israel do not see the state 
as a religious one, and at times act contrary to that belief, to show that
they are just like other nations.
we are a special people (call me bigotted, when it comes to judaism i am and im
proud of it ), in a special land, which under the government which rules it now,
is headed in a direction which is far from praiseworthy.

	hakosayve lichvod hayehudim,
		eliyahu teitz