[net.religion.jewish] The Orange County Jew and Mr. Martillo

de@moscom.UUCP (Dave Esan) (10/30/84)

I have been on net for only a short time and have begun to develop both
a respect and an antipathy for Mr. Martillo.  The respect is for his
knowledge, his ability to cut to the heart of an issue, and the direct
answers that are given.  The antipathy is from the filter through which
all of his responses are passed;  that the sfardic community is entirely
correct, and that the ashkenazic community spent the last two milleniums
assimilating into the prevailing culture.

I am the first to admit that there is a prejudice by the ashkenaz against
the sfard.  However, mimicking will only cause one to look like that which
you are railing against -- in other words, your prejudice is outashkenazing
the ashkenaz!  The last two millenia were filled with great scholars (all
of whom contributed to Judaism as it is today).  Not everyone was an
assimilationist, but one is shaped by one's culture.  I do not know enough
about sfardic judaism to press this point, but I am sure that there are
many customs that relate to the culture that surrounded you.  I suggest that
you read THE MYTHS OF GENISIS (the author's name escapes me), which documents
the myths of the area that crept into biblical Judaism.  Should we begin by
removing Noah since the flood exists in Gilgamesh and dozens of other cultures?

To the subject above, perhaps Mr. Martillo did not grow up in the US where
as a child one believes that all men are created equal.  The first experience
with being called christkiller, or in my case, having your head searched for
horns (in 1969 no less), can be heartbreaking.  One begins to ask why one is
different, and only the strong and the well-educated can survive as Jews.  The
rest fade from the fight and later, as they grow, may decide to return.  To
scorn such a person is an 'averah' even is sfardic culture.  A person seeking
contact with his/her people should be helped to learn, not told that this is
because her parents dared to live in Orange County or chose not to send her
to day school or most brilliantly, that she is ashkenaz!

In closing, let me note that the years spent in Europe were not days of
wine and roses.  They were times of blood libel (York, England), pogroms
(a nice Russian word -- let us not forget Khmilnitski in 1648 who wiped out
1/3 of world (!) Jewry, all in Poland and the Ukraine), ghettos, pales of
settlement, distinctive badges, the 1/3-1/3-1/3 plan, .... We ashkenaz bled
too.

yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) (11/01/84)

May I second Dave's comments here. While I am a Jew of Dutch origin,
I claim neither Ashkenazi nor S'fardi (they may or may not claim me,
that's a different matter). I simply want to be known as a Jew. Would
that we were more conscious of the term 'Am ekhad'. I have great 
respect for both S'fardim and Ashkenzim, and for Mr. Martillo who has
shown the mental acumen Dave has noted. I would, however, prefer that
greater effort be made toward healing such wounds rather than pouring
in salt.