cdelliot@uokvax.UUCP (12/08/84)
/Bernie @ brl-tgr writes: > Joan Jett's version of "Crimson and Clover" is a note-for-note > remake of Tommy James'. It is hard to say that the original is > better, since the remake is an EXACT copy. It may be a note-for-note remake, but it is definitely not an EXACT copy. Not only are the vocals different, but the whole mood of the song has been changed. The original is much preferable. In fact, I can't think of any remake of a classic song which I like better than the original. Question: When one artist writes a song, another artist records the song, and then the writer records a version later, is the writers version considered a cover? I believe this has happened with some Bruce Springsteen and Bob Dylan material. ..!ctvax!uokvax!cdelliot
mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) (12/11/84)
> > Question: When one artist writes a song, another artist records the song, > and then the writer records a version later, is the writers version > considered a cover? I believe this has happened with some Bruce > Springsteen and Bob Dylan material. > > > > ..!ctvax!uokvax!cdelliot A cover is a song recorded by someone other than the person who composed it, regardless of whether the composer has recorded and issued it already. Some covers are so great that they become associated with the person who covered, rather than the writer. The Byrds' "Mr Tambourine Man", Aretha Franklin's "Respect", Billie Holiday's "Strange Fruit" are three disparate examples that come to my mind.
mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) (12/13/84)
> Coverer Title Original Artist > ------------------ ---------------------- ----------------- > Jimi Hendrix "Johnny B. Goode" Chuck Berry > " "The Killing Floor" The Electric Flag The original performer of Killing Floor was Howlin' Wolf!!!!!! On the other hand, one of the absolute WORST covers in history is the Yardbirds's so-called version of "Mannish Boy", which they retitled "I'm a Man" "I'm built for comfort, I ain't built for speed; but i got everything that all good women need" Marcel Simon {ihnp4!allegra}!mhuxr!mfs
dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (David S. Green) (12/13/84)
[] > On the other hand, one of the absolute WORST covers in history is > the Yardbirds's so-called version of "Mannish Boy", which they retitled > "I'm a Man" > > Marcel Simon {ihnp4!allegra}!mhuxr!mfs The Yardbirds "broke up" almost 20 years ago. I happen to like their version of "I'm a Man". It is up-beat and you can dance to it (-:. But seriously, I think that the Yardbirds were one of the most important groups to come out of England during the '60s because of the content of their work and the members of their band who went on to bigger and perhaps better things, specifically Eric Clapton. I don't feel it is needed to name-drop the rest of the Yardbirds alumni. "I'm a Man" is just as good as any other of their covers and originals. The sixties was a time for experimentation, cover versions of other songs that have popped up in the seventies and eighties make me cringe, especially disco covers. David S. Green {ihnp4|allegra}!mhuxi!dsg 201-564-4468 Ninevah
mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) (12/13/84)
> [] > > On the other hand, one of the absolute WORST covers in history is > > the Yardbirds's so-called version of "Mannish Boy", which they retitled > > "I'm a Man" > > > > The Yardbirds "broke up" almost 20 years ago. I happen to like their > version of "I'm a Man". It is up-beat and you can dance to it (-:. > But seriously, I think that the Yardbirds were one of the most important > groups to come out of England during the '60s because of the content of > their work and the members of their band who went on to bigger and perhaps > better things, specifically Eric Clapton. <... Rest Deleted...> I LOVE the Yardbirds. That does not change the fact that their desecration of "Mannish Boy" is an affront in the face of the Universe Marcel Simon {ihnp4!allegra}!mhuxr!mfs
rob@ctvax.UUCP (12/17/84)
Re: Joan Jett's cover of Crimson and Clover: But did you know that her manager (and keyboards player on a recent tour when her guitarist got sick) was one of the Shondells!? ------------------- >... In fact, I can't think of >any remake of a classic song which I like better than the original. Oh boy! What a can of worms you've opened! For starters (from senile memory): Coverer Title Original Artist ------------------ ---------------------- ----------------- Jimi Hendrix "Johnny B. Goode" Chuck Berry " "The Killing Floor" The Electric Flag " "Wild Thing" The Troggs " "God Save the Queen" ? " "The Stars and Stripes" ? The Rolling Stones "Walking the Dog" Rufus Thomas Cream "Crossroads" Robert Johnson The Beatles "Money" ? Zoot Money and his Big Roll Band "Barefootin'" Robert Parker There must be hundreds of others, especially from the late sixties when the British bands were covering all the R&B classics. "Tire tracks across your back tell me you've had your fun!" Rob Spray ...convex!ctvax!rob
Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@BRL-VLD.ARPA> (01/08/85)
I'm not sure of this, but I think Barrett Strong did "Money" before the Beatles did.