[net.religion.jewish] God and His Manifestations - Progressive Revelation

vc@hou2h.UUCP (Verbus M. Counts) (01/06/85)

 The most fundamental of all Bahai' principles are these:

                  The Oneness of God

                  The Oneness of His Messengers

                  The Oneness of mankind


 This article will focus on "God and His Messengers".

 From the Baha'i writings:

 God is like the sun.  Just as the physical sun is  the  source  of  all
 physical light, God is the source of all spiritual light.  The sun does
 not come down to earth to sustain life - it sends its like-giving rays.

 The infinite, unknowable God does not come down to earth - He sends His
 Messengers.   As  perfect  mirrors reflect the light of the sun, so His
 Messengers perfectly reflect the Word of God.  Therefore, one Messenger
 is not greater than another.  They are equal.  For this reason, Bahai's
 have the same  love  and  reverence  for  Christ  that  they  have  for
 Baha'`u'llah - because they are one in spirit.

 There is no exclusive salvation for the Bahai', the  Christian  or  the
 Jew.   God  is  not in  competition with him Himself. His revelation is
 orderly and progressive, and He sends His Messengers  whenever  mankind
 is in need of a fresh outpouring of His Word. Thus Moses may be likened
 to the seed; Christ to the tree; and Baha`'u'llah the fruit.  From  the
 fruit  will  come the seed of succeeding cycles in which new Messengers
 of God will bring an outward or social truth which  is  fitted  to  the
 needs of the age in which He appears.

               DIVINE REVELATORS

 RELIGION                  REVELATORS

 SABAEAN                   UNKNOWN
                           5000 B.C.

 HINDU                     KRISHNA
                           2000 B.C.

 JEWISH                    MOSES
                           1330 B.C.


 ZOROASTRIAN               ZOROASTER
                           1000 B.C.

 BUDDHIST                  GAUTAMA BUDDHA
                           560 B.C.

 CHRISTIAN                 JESUS CHRIST
                           1 A.D.

 ISLAMIC                   MUHAMMAD
                           622 A.D.

 BABI'                     THE BAB
                           1844 A.D.

 BAHA'I                    BAHA`'U'LLAH
                           1853 A.D.

 From the writings of Baha`'u'llah:

 Know thou assuredly that the essence of all the prophets of God is  one
 and  the same.  Their unity is absolute. God, the Creator, saith: There
 is no distinction whatsoever among the Bearers of My Message.  They all
 have but one purpose their secret is the same secret.  To prefer one in
 honor to another, to exalt certain ones above the rest, is in  no  wise
 to  be  permitted.   Every  true  Prophet hath  regarded His Message as
 fundamentally the same as the Revelation of every  other  Prophet  gone
 before   Him.   If  any  man, therefore, should fail to comprehend this
 truth, and should consequently indulge in vain and  unseemly  language,
 no one whose sight is keen and whose understanding is enlightened would
 ever allow such idle talk to cause him to waver in his belief.

 Beware, O believers in the Unity of God, lest ye be tempted to make any
 distinction  between  any  of  the  Manifestations  of His Cause, or to
 discriminate against the signs that  have  accompanied  and  proclaimed
 their  Revelation.  This indeed is the true meaning Divine Unity, if ye
 be of them that apprehend and  believe  this  truth.   Be  ye  assured,
 moreover,  that  the  works  and  acts  of  each and every one of these
 Manifestations  of  God,  nay  whatever  pertaineth  unto   them,   and
 whatsoever  they  may  manifest in the future, are all ordained by God,
 and are a reflection  of  His   Will  and  Purpose.  Whoso  maketh  the
 slightest possible difference between their persons, their words, their
 messages, their acts and manners, hath indeed disbelieved in God,  hath
 repudiated His signs, and betrayed the Cause of His Messengers.

 From the foregoing passages and allusions it hath been made indubitably
 clear  that  in  the  kingdoms of earth and  heaven there must needs be
 manifested a Being, an Essence Who shall act  as  a  Manifestation  and
 Vehicle  for  the transmission of the grace of the Divinity Itself, the
 Sovereign Lord of all. Through the teachings of this Daystar  of  Truth
 every  man  will  advance and develop until he attaineth the station at
 which he can manifest all the potential forces with  which  his  inmost
 true  self  hath  been endowed. It is for the this very purpose that in
 every age and dispensation the Prophets of God and His chosen Ones have
 appeared  amongst men, and evince such power as is born of God and such
 might as only the Eternal can reveal.


Regards,
Verbus M. Counts   AT&T Bell Labs             The Word of God(religion) is one,
(201) 564-2510     101 JFK Parkway            though the speakers are many ...
ihnp4!pata!vca     Room 1l-423
January 6,1985     Short Hills, NJ 07078                  The Bahai Faith

abeles@mhuxm.UUCP (abeles) (01/06/85)

I have sent this reply to the writer of the original article.

> To: mhuxn!mhuxj!houxm!hou2h!vc
> Subject: Re: God and His Manifestations - Progressive Revelation
> In-reply-to: your article <698@hou2h.UUCP>


> Verbus M. Counts,

> I am appalled at your posting to net.religion.jewish!

> In no way does your article address any Jewish issue or issue of
> particular interest to Jews.  It is clearly an attempt to proselytize.

> I believe I am speaking for virtually all the readers of net.religion
> .jewish when I tell you that this is not appreciated.  Please refrain
> from any future postings to this newsgroup.  Consider yourself shunned.

> --J. Abeles

Furthermore, I urge readers of net.religion.jewish to refrain from
engaging in any discussions with V. M. Counts, in order to discourage
future use of this newgroup for the purposes of proselytization of
Jews.  The future of net.religion.jewish is at stake.  The present
situation may be a direct result of allowing discussions to continue
after the original proselytizing submissions of Bob Brown, a. k. a.,
"Rev. Bob."  Those who participated are hereby admonished.

--J. Abeles

rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob]) (01/07/85)

Abeles, 

I hereby respectfully challenge you to repost to net.religion.jewish
any article (or reasonable portion thereof) that you consider prosyletizing
on my part.  Please note the parts of the article and why you consider
them prosyletizing in nature.  I can't learn if I'm not instructed
and I can't defend myself if I'm being smeared with baseless phantom
accusations.  I will apologize to whomever is offended if it can be
demonstrated that I have erred.

Anyone else who has a bone to pick, let's put it up on the table.

I am capable of learning...I think :-)

Bob (Honored...but no Rev.) Brown