martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) (01/13/85)
Since Jesse Jackson has publically stated that he intends to try to help facilitate emigration of Falashas to Israel, note should be taken that historically and to the present day the main persecutors of the Falashas have not been whites but black Christians not unlike Jesse Jackson. Of course, Muslims have also done their part. For Falashas Yehudah (Judea) and Shomron (Samaria), the so-called West Bank, are popular areas of settlement. While I consider the Jewishness of the Falashas dubious, settling them there is good because the Arab Muslims under Israeli rule are intense anti-Black racists who will immensely disturbed by the presence of blacks.
baba@spar.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS) (01/14/85)
> Of course, Muslims have also done their part. For Falashas Yehudah > (Judea) and Shomron (Samaria), the so-called West Bank, are popular > areas of settlement. While I consider the Jewishness of the Falashas > dubious, settling them there is good because the Arab Muslims under > Israeli rule are intense anti-Black racists who will immensely disturbed > by the presence of blacks. > > martillo@mit-athena Why is this good? Are you hoping that anti-Falasha riots will provide the excuse for your Final Solution to the Muslim Question? Baba
gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg) (01/16/85)
> > Of course, Muslims have also done their part. For Falashas Yehudah > > (Judea) and Shomron (Samaria), the so-called West Bank, are popular > > areas of settlement. While I consider the Jewishness of the Falashas > > dubious, settling them there is good because the Arab Muslims under > > Israeli rule are intense anti-Black racists who will immensely disturbed > > by the presence of blacks. > > > > martillo@mit-athena > > Why is this good? Are you hoping that anti-Falasha riots will provide > the excuse for your Final Solution to the Muslim Question? > > Baba "Final Solution"? Sure. You can sit back in your armchair and cook up these allusions to the Nazis. I, on the other hand, have talked at length with Jews who experienced the Holocaust and lived to tell about it. Well, I haven't talked much with my uncle about Auschwitz---that would be like telling a lady, "I'm curious about how you were raped." But I have talked to my other uncle, who fled from the Nazis. And I've read the statistics. Comparing Nazi Germany to Israel is like comparing the MacDonalds killer to you; the killer is a crazy and evil man, while you are at worst merely a jerk. And perhaps you are a nice person most of the time. --- Greg Kuperberg harvard!talcott!gjk "Nice boy, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." - Foghorn Leghorn
pal@crystal.UUCP (01/16/85)
From Greg Kuperberg (talcott!gjk) in reply to Baba ROM DOS > > Why is this good? Are you hoping that anti-Falasha riots will provide > > the excuse for your Final Solution to the Muslim Question? > > > > Baba > > "Final Solution"? Sure. You can sit back in your armchair and cook up > these allusions to the Nazis. I, on the other hand, have talked at length [...] > the statistics. Comparing Nazi Germany to Israel is like comparing the Whoa. I don't see where the Baba was comparing Israel to anything. I read the "your" as referring to Martillo (and I sure as heck hope his opinions are not in any way representative of official or unofficial Israeli policy!). In relation to Martillo, I see no problem with using the term "Final Solution," with all its connotations, to describe his aim of liberating the world from the unspeakable menace of Islam and its adherents. Martillo has posted articles advocating the subjugation of "Muslim countries" (left undefined) and the eradication of Islam. He did not detail how he proposed to re-educate those who persisted in their beliefs, but I don't think he would be willing to wait until they died of natural causes. I don't think Martillo has got very far with the implementation of his policies yet, but that does not diminish my distaste for them. It is a pity that Greg Kuperberg, despite his knowledge of the Nazi atrocities, is not sensitive to the seeds of the same ideas contained in Martillo's postings. Anil Pal U. of Wisconsin-Madison
baba@spar.UUCP (Baba ROM DOS) (01/17/85)
> > > Of course, Muslims have also done their part. For Falashas Yehudah > > > (Judea) and Shomron (Samaria), the so-called West Bank, are popular > > > areas of settlement. While I consider the Jewishness of the Falashas > > > dubious, settling them there is good because the Arab Muslims under > > > Israeli rule are intense anti-Black racists who will immensely disturbed > > > by the presence of blacks. > > > > > > martillo@mit-athena > > > > Why is this good? Are you hoping that anti-Falasha riots will provide > > the excuse for your Final Solution to the Muslim Question? > > > > Baba > > Comparing Nazi Germany to Israel is like comparing the > MacDonalds killer to you; the killer is a crazy and evil man, while you are > at worst merely a jerk. And perhaps you are a nice person most of the > time. > --- > Greg Kuperberg I'm terribly sorry. I didn't know that Martillo was the embodiment of Israel. Had I known, I would have been even more disturbed by his advocacy last year of "cleansing" Lebanon of Islam. On a less sarcastic note, I really am sorry about this sequence dribbling over into net.religion.jewish, as it is not a good place to bait a racist who happens to be Jewish. In the future I shall try to harrass Joachim in net.politics only. Baba
cjk@ccice2.UUCP (Chris Kreilick) (01/18/85)
Well, I for one don't see how Jackson's winter apparel has anything to do with politics. His footgear probably varies with the seasons, and frankly I don't think it has a place here. -- Friend of Brontos everywhere!
arig@cvl.UUCP (Ari Gross) (01/31/85)
> > Of course, Muslims have also done their part. For Falashas Yehudah > > (Judea) and Shomron (Samaria), the so-called West Bank, are popular > > areas of settlement. While I consider the Jewishness of the Falashas > > dubious, settling them there is good because the Arab Muslims under > > Israeli rule are intense anti-Black racists who will immensely disturbed > > by the presence of blacks. > > > > martillo@mit-athena > > Why is this good? Are you hoping that anti-Falasha riots will provide > the excuse for your Final Solution to the Muslim Question? > > Baba Actually, not a bad idea. After all, Yasser Arafat and his cohorts discuss a FINAL SOLUTION OF THE JEWISH PROBLEM every chance they get. Just read transcripts of their last parliamentary session in Jordan. Better get them before they get us, eh ? Seriously, I think Kahane's proposals in 'THEY MUST GO' are a much better idea. "Persuade" all the Arabs living in Israel to leave, much as Jewish residents in Arab countries were "persuaded" to run for their lives. - Ari Gross arig@cvl.arpa "do unto others... before others do unto you..."
arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL) (02/04/85)
> Seriously, I think Kahane's proposals in 'THEY MUST GO' are a much >better idea. "Persuade" all the Arabs living in Israel to leave, much >as Jewish residents in Arab countries were "persuaded" to run for >their lives. > - Ari Gross >"do unto others... before others do unto you..." I am not a great Torah scholar, but I don't remember this. Is this last quote truly Torah? -- Ken Arnold ================================================================= Of COURSE we can implement your algorithm. We've got this Turing machine emulator...