dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (David S. Green) (01/27/85)
[ Only friendly golems are allowed to munch this line ] The term "meshummad" means a deserter who has forsaken his people. The term has a much more unfavorable connotation than that of a convert. I found this quote from the Besht ( Rabbi Israel Baal Shem Tov, founder of Hasidism ): "Every Jew is an organ of the Shekhinah ( the divine presence ). As long as the organ is joined to the body, however tenuously, there is hope; once it is cut off, all hope is lost." David HaMelech ( David ben ben ben ... Dovid HaMelech [ Zayde told me ]) "It's Good to be King"
olsen@wxlvax.UUCP (Neil Olsen) (01/30/85)
> [ Only friendly golems are allowed to munch this line ] > > The term "meshummad" means a deserter who has forsaken his people. > The term has a much more unfavorable connotation than that of a > convert. I found this quote from the Besht ( Rabbi Israel Baal > Shem Tov, founder of Hasidism ): > "Every Jew is an organ of the Shekhinah ( the divine > presence ). As long as the organ is joined to the body, however > tenuously, there is hope; once it is cut off, all hope is lost." > > David HaMelech ( David ben ben ben ... Dovid HaMelech [ Zayde told me ]) > > "It's Good to be King" Is there any link between the term "meshummad" and the arabic name "Muhammad"? Muhammad is the prophet of the muslim religion; he originated from an arabic tribe in the Middle East, and could have had a jewish or semitic origin. By the way, could any one explain the difference between jewishness and semitism? I read somewhere that the Arabs are basically from a semitic origin.!! CHEDLEY C/O ITTVAX!WXLVAX!OLSEN
segs@mhuxv.UUCP (slusky) (02/01/85)
> Is there any link between the term "meshummad" and the arabic name > "Muhammad"? No. > By the way, could any one explain > the difference between jewishness and semitism? I read somewhere > that the Arabs are basically from a semitic origin.!! > > CHEDLEY C/O ITTVAX!WXLVAX!OLSEN Traditionally, the peoples of the world (ancient world) were divided into three family groups, associated with the families of the three sons of Noah. Indo-Europeans are Japhetic (from Japhet); Africans are Hamitic (from Ham), Middle East peoples are Semitic (from Shem). So Semites include Arabs, Jews, Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, etc. Susan Slusky --
dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) (02/04/85)
>Is there any link between the term "meshummad" and the arabic name "Muhammad"?
Linguistically impossible. The initial "mem" in "meshumad" is a
prefix. The root is SH/M/D. The shin (SH) is a strong consonant
which never disappears in word variations.
Dave Sherman
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{allegra decvax ihnp4 linus}!utcsrgv!lsuc!davedave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) (02/05/85)
In article <353@lsuc.UUCP> I write: ||Linguistically impossible. The initial "mem" in "meshumad" is a ||prefix. The root is SH/M/D. The shin (SH) is a strong consonant ||which never disappears in word variations. Now I've been castigated by a correspondent who points out that, although he also doesn't think the words are related, my assertions about the linguistics aren't necessarily valid, since the SH isn't as strong (between languages) as I though, and the initial M in Muhamad could be a prefix too. I'll defer to his better knowledge of linguistics. If anyone really cares to see the analysis I could send you a copy. Dave Sherman -- {utzoo pesnta nrcaero utcs}!lsuc!dave {allegra decvax ihnp4 linus}!utcsrgv!lsuc!dave