[net.religion.jewish] the Jew, the Christian, and the Recluse

cs193bah@unm-la.UUCP (02/01/85)

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In a recent multiple posting, Rich Rosen, the apostate Jew and
net.religion recluse makes the following ridiculous assertion:

"I assume from earlier postings that Bill Peter is a Christian...."

Well, Rich, I wish you had told that to the Nazis before they tortured and
murdered my grandfather and most of my family in Lodz and Auschwitz.  I
also wish that you would have told that to the British when they imprisoned
my father and uncle for being illegal Jewish refugees in the land of Israel.
Maybe you could have told my mother in Israel that before she gave birth to
me in Haifa?

If you had known about the history of your people, Rich, you would know
that the last name "Peter" is a distinctly Jewish surname from Eastern
Europe.  It is pronounced "Petter" and written in German and Polish
phonetically as "Peter".  It is a not uncommon Israeli name and has the  
approximate meaning of first-born ("one who cuts the womb") in Hebrew:

[Exodus, Chap. 13]:
"va'yomer HaShem el Moshe laymor: kadesh li kol b'chor PETTER kol rechem"
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So please, Rich, lets keep the matter straight.  Charley Wingate has
enough problems to deal with besides having to wonder if I'm an
apostate Xian.
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bill peter              
!cmcl2!lanl!wkp              "Santa Claus must owe me a lot of presents..."

"...she'lo asani goy."

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dinsdale Piranha) (02/05/85)

> In a recent multiple posting, Rich Rosen, the apostate Jew and
> net.religion recluse makes the following ridiculous assertion:
> 
> "I assume from earlier postings that Bill Peter is a Christian...."

I made the assumption based on your statement "Must we bear the brunt of
these child molesters?" (which I assumed you meant as a Christian disgusted
as bearing that brunt, and not as a Jew), but I more directly based it on
your game playing with antichrist numbers, a subject not really of interest
to Jews, wouldn't you think?  And you spent quite a bit of time on it, no?
I contend that it was a reasonable assumption based on what I'd seen.

> Well, Rich, I wish you had told that to the Nazis before they tortured and
> murdered my grandfather and most of my family in Lodz and Auschwitz.  I
> also wish that you would have told that to the British when they imprisoned
> my father and uncle for being illegal Jewish refugees in the land of Israel.
> Maybe you could have told my mother in Israel that before she gave birth to
> me in Haifa?

Thank you for your family history.  Now Martillo can call you a cosmopolitian
vus-vus.  Congratulations.  Are you insulted that I mistakenly called you
a Christian?  Why?  I made a mistake!  I'm not getting down on my knees to
beg your forgiveness for a human foible.

> If you had known about the history of your people, Rich, you would know
> that the last name "Peter" is a distinctly Jewish surname from Eastern
> Europe.  It is pronounced "Petter" and written in German and Polish
> phonetically as "Peter".  It is a not uncommon Israeli name and has the  
> approximate meaning of first-born ("one who cuts the womb") in Hebrew:
> 
> [Exodus, Chap. 13]:
> "va'yomer HaShem el Moshe laymor: kadesh li kol b'chor PETTER kol rechem"
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I don't make assumptions about people's origins based on their names.  If
only I could remember that really great joke about the Jewish man named
Sean Ferguson.  (Could someone please repeat it?)

As for my being called "an apostate Jew", just remember that "apostate Jew"
who defined Christianity, right, Ken? :-)  And as for being a recluse...
-- 
When you're omniscient, everything's a tautology.      Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr