[net.religion.jewish] the "apostate Jew"

aeq@pucc-h (The Blackguard of the West) (02/13/85)

> As for my being called "an apostate Jew", just remember that "apostate Jew"
> who defined Christianity, right, Ken? :-)

Being an apostate Jew is not sufficient to make you able to define
Christianity.  Being anyone other than Christ is insufficient; but at least
some of the other "apostate Jews" who produced many of the early Christian
writings had spent time with the incarnate Jesus and both knew and believed
what they were writing about.  This is the exact opposite of Rosen's view
of religion; so his views of Christianity, Judaism, even Ubizmatism must be
taken with a bucket of salt.

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-- Jeff Sargent
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"Head him off at the pass!"  (advice by a mother to her daughter)

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (02/14/85)

>>As for my being called "an apostate Jew", just remember that "apostate Jew"
>>who defined Christianity, right, Ken? :-)  [ROSEN]

> Being an apostate Jew is not sufficient to make you able to define
> Christianity.

I never said it was.  I was referring to Ken's remark of some time ago when
he said "I just love seeing an apostate Jew define Christianity for us".

> Being anyone other than Christ is insufficient;

Being anyone other than X is insufficient for defining any X-ism.  So?

> but at least
> some of the other "apostate Jews" who produced many of the early Christian
> writings had spent time with the incarnate Jesus and both knew and believed
> what they were writing about.

Again, so?  I really don't understand the point.

> This is the exact opposite of Rosen's view of religion;

In what way?  Compared to what?  What are you talking about?  I'm truly lost.

> so his views of Christianity, Judaism, even Ubizmatism must be
> taken with a bucket of salt.

Too much salt is bad for you Jeff.  As is too much presumption...
Forgive me, but all I saw here was an article making more claims about my
"views of religion" (though what these claims are I'm not sure from reading)
that deserved some sort of answer.  Sorry, Hutch, if you deem this one
"impolite" as well.
-- 
-- Jeff Sargent
{decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq
"Head him off at the pass!"  (advice by a mother to her daughter)
-- 
"I don't understand.  Is it modern?"		Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr

teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) (02/19/85)

    I don't think this belongs in religion.jewish. Will the next series of
 responses please be shifted to only net.religion. Thank you.

			Eliyahu Teitz