kenw@lcuxc.UUCP (K Wolman) (03/06/85)
LIKE A VUSVUS
(Tune: "Like A Virgin")
You're a clown,
Teeth of brown,
You keep pullin' all us Sefardim down,
Oh you're no damn good,
Yeah you know you're no damn good,
And that's why you are . . .
[Chorus]
Like a VusVus (YEAH!)
Bathed for the very first time.
Like a Vu-u-u-us-Vus
Pretending your yichus is as good as mine.
You can dump
On me, chump!
But I'm Sefardi Tahor and you're a bore!
Oh us Libyan Jews
Make the rest of you bad news,
Cause you are. . . .
[Chorus]
Like a VusVus (YEAH!)
Bathed for the very first time.
Like a Vu-u-u-us-Vus
Pretending your yichus is as good as mine!
Don't you say
"Go away!"
I won't go, and I will let you know
That you're slime and you're scum
Leftists too, you dirty bum,
Because you are. . . .
[Chorus]
Like a VusVus (OOO!)
Bathed for the very first time!
Like a Vu-u-u-us-Vus,
Pretending your yichus is as good as mine!
Yiddish stinks,
Litvak drinks,
But Sefardi Tahor will be redeemed before,
We've got it over you,
Yes we do,
Because you are. . . .
[Chorus]
Like a VusVus (OOO!)
Bathed for the very first time!
Like a Vu-u-u-us-Vus,
Pretending your yichus is as good as mine!
--
Ken Wolman
Bell Communications Research @ Livingston, NJ
lcuxc!kenw
So drunk I can't tell Mordecai from Haman. . .martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Joaquim Martillo) (03/08/85)
I should point out that the Purimshpil is a custom which originates in Christian observance of Fasching (the Mardi Gras) and is unknown among Sefardic and oriental Jews. Yehoyaqim Martillo
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/12/85)
> I should point out that the Purimshpil is a custom which originates in > Christian observance of Fasching (the Mardi Gras) and is unknown among > Sefardic and oriental Jews. [Yehoyaqim Martillo] I take this to mean that, by Martillo's reckoning, the custom is thus not "really" Jewish, since those who practice "true" Judaism have never heard of it.
martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Joaquim Martillo) (03/13/85)
Since Rosen became so upset a few months ago, when I stated that under Jewish Law he would be Jewish, I do not know why he cares. But as for true Judaism, my Ashkenazi hakamim including Jacob of Emden and the Vilna Gaon have been of the opinion that Sefardi shittah is of higher Qedushah than the Ashkenazi shitah. In Israel, there is neither halakic justification for either the existence of a chief Ashkenazi rabbi no halakic justification for the continued observance of Ashkenazi minhagim. As for Purimshpile, this is one example of many borrowings from Christian practise which Ashkenazim have made. Since 99% of Ashkenazim are apostate I must wonder whether perhaps Ashkenazim have not been prepared for their apostacy by ill-considered borrowing over the centuries. I know that Yom Kippur among Ashkenazim seems much more Churchlike than Jewish. The Hassidic Qabalah is basically Slavic Orthodox Neo-Platonism. Shaving the heads of married women is a Slavic pagan custom. When I have spent passover with Ashkenazim, I experience "hayinu `abadim" but I have never seen evidence that we are "bnei horim." This is also typically slavic. The list is endless and goes from the most trivial to fundamental religious and political outlook. In fact the ba`alei teshubah movement exactly parallels a religious revival currently taking place among the slavic orthodox. In Russia, the ba`alei teshubah movement has in fact even been a partial reaction to the adoption of Russian orthodoxy by various Jewish dissidents in the 60's. It simply may be time for Ashkenazim to renounce the decadent detritus of the Ashkenazi diaspora in perhaps a form Jewish Wahhabianism. I find Yehoshua` Lebovitz admiration for the Wahhabi's since he is the Jewish analogy of what the Wahhabi's are trying to stamp out in Islam. Yehoyaqim Martillo
teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) (03/19/85)
> Since Rosen became so upset a few months ago, when I stated that under > Jewish Law he would be Jewish, I do not know why he cares. > > But as for true Judaism, my Ashkenazi hakamim including Jacob of Emden > and the Vilna Gaon have been of the opinion that Sefardi shittah is of > higher Qedushah than the Ashkenazi shitah. > > In Israel, there is neither halakic justification for either the > existence of a chief Ashkenazi rabbi no halakic justification for the > continued observance of Ashkenazi minhagim. > > As for Purimshpile, this is one example of many borrowings from > Christian practise which Ashkenazim have made. Since 99% of Ashkenazim > are apostate I must wonder whether perhaps Ashkenazim have not been > prepared for their apostacy by ill-considered borrowing over the > centuries. Do you have any sources for these statistics? They are quite radical. Also, why is Ashkenazi Judaism not authentic? You are shooting off anti- Ashkenazi rhetoric again with no regard for the truth. Please refrain from your diatribes because they only sicken the majority of the net. Sorry to word this condemnation so strongly, but this isn't the first time you've done this. > > I know that Yom Kippur among Ashkenazim seems much more Churchlike than > Jewish. The Hassidic Qabalah is basically Slavic Orthodox > Neo-Platonism. Shaving the heads of married women is a Slavic pagan > custom. > > When I have spent passover with Ashkenazim, I experience "hayinu > `abadim" but I have never seen evidence that we are "bnei horim." This > is also typically slavic. > > The list is endless and goes from the most trivial to fundamental > religious and political outlook. > > In fact the ba`alei teshubah movement exactly parallels a religious > revival currently taking place among the slavic orthodox. In Russia, > the ba`alei teshubah movement has in fact even been a partial reaction > to the adoption of Russian orthodoxy by various Jewish dissidents in the > 60's. > > It simply may be time for Ashkenazim to renounce the decadent detritus > of the Ashkenazi diaspora in perhaps a form Jewish Wahhabianism. > > I find Yehoshua` Lebovitz admiration for the Wahhabi's since he is the > Jewish analogy of what the Wahhabi's are trying to stamp out in Islam. Yakim, We are aware of your opinion of us vusvus scum that pervade the net. If you don't like our brand of Judaism then fine. But, your articles are doing nothing to change any situation. You argue so vehemently against Ashkenazim, that I fear you are hiding something. Maybe an ancestor long ago who was Ashkenazi ? (:-)) Eliyahu Teitz.
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) (03/21/85)
> Since Rosen became so upset a few months ago, when I stated that under > Jewish Law he would be Jewish, I do not know why he cares. {MARTILLO} ^ (@) | | I care that you still seem to think that you have the qualifications to determine the will of millions of people. But, no matter, that's not likely to change. This coming from a man who calls people "vusvus", which simply means that he thinks it's an insult to label someone with an epithet that means essentially "a person who didn't understand me". As if not understanding what *he* had to say in his language with his accent with his etc., makes a person some sort of toad. But, that's the way the self-centered ethnocentrist thinks. If I were as bigoted as you are, I'd be saying that all Sefardim are narrowminded pigs with brains the size of peas and reasoning capabilities comparable to a corn flake. Since I'm not, I can only comment on how such labels might apply to you. Based on what you have to offer. -- "Which three books would *you* have taken?" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr