[net.religion.jewish] This Net

samet@sfmag.UUCP (A.I.Samet) (07/09/85)

> > 4 - When addressing net.religion.jewish, I feel free  to  express
> > Torah views, as such, without having to prove the axioms of Torah
> > belief as a precondition for expressing these views. If there are
> > atheistic  contributors, I  would hope that they remain cognizant
> > of  the context of this net, just as I would if I were writing in
> > net.atheism.
> > 5 -  Within  net.religion,jewish,  I  am  willing  to  engage  in
> > discourse  with  anyone  who is sincerely interested in exploring
> > the Jewish religion. [ Y. Samet]

> Let me remind you  that this is net.jewish.religion and not
> net.religion.jewish.orthodox (or net.religion.jewish.torah).
> Please do not define other people Jewishness.  [Yosi Hoshen]

To clarify:

1 - I was not suggesting that anyone has to agree with my concept
of Torah or Jewish religion to contribute to this net.

2 - Since this net is dedicated to Jewish religion,  it  is  fair
play  to express religious views as such. (This is in response to
those who insist that proof of the  Torah  be  given  before  any
orthodox  view is expressed.) While it is legitimate to question,
discuss, and debate religious fundamentals, it is  inappropriate,
within   this   net,  to  require  proof  of  fundamentals  as  a
precondition for any expression of religious views. Those who set
such  preconditions  are  ignoring  the  context  of  this net by
attempting to squelch religious expression, for  which  this  net
was established.

3 - If you  love motorcycles, and  believe  in   flying  saucers,
your  being  Jewish  does not make motorcycles and flying saucers
"Jewish religious issues" and this is not the  place  to  discuss
them.  If  you  insist that flying saucers are central to Judaism
and rank me out for disagreeing with you, you  need  therapy  and
you  need  a  Jewish  education.  If you attack orthodox Jews for
accepting the Torah, which  forbids  riding  motorcycles  on  Yom
Kippur,  you  are  a nudnik.  If you argue incessantly with  many
people on many nets and never listen to or  agree  with  anything
they say, we will certainly get a "rebuttal" of this article from
you.  However, if you want to relate flying saucers to some  form
of Judaism you came to the right place. 

					Yitzchok Samet

PS - If  you're only connection to Judaism is ranting obsessively
about sick fanatics who  throw  rocks  at  motorcycles on Shabbos,
you need love.