[net.religion.jewish] I DON'T LIKE THE MODERATED MAILING LIST CONCEPT!

dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (David S. Green) (03/21/86)

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I found out about the "moderated mailing list" a few days ago.
I scanned the original posting about it and some follow-ups
and *assumed* that it would not form.  How wrong I was!
My initial reaction was one of extreme anger at the concept.
What came to my mind was the part in the Pesach Haggadah about
the four sons - which I am not going to repeat, now.

Yes, we have all four sons reading and posting to this group, to
a more or less degree.  To me, it is totally against everything
I believe is "Jewish" to have a mail list for the so-called
"wise son" that excludes the other three.  Don't give me any 
crap that the other three can "join" but have their participation
moderated/censored by the "experts."

How will a newcomer to netnews know that this mail list exists?
What about the people who didn't subscribe but are interested and
may have missed the original posting?  What value is a private
list going to add to the "community?"

We have had many disagreements in the past few years in this
newsgroups.  Unlike other newsgroups, when we asked people
to leave, such as non-Jews expounding on Christianity or
engaging in Political debates, they certainly did.

The people who did not ( and shouldn't ) leave are those Jews
whose beliefs, practices and  customs differ from some on
the net.

A Democracy believes in majority rule with minority respect.
This newsgroup always seemed to be Democratic.  

I am ashamed and disgusted that so many people feel that they have
to crawl into a corner to discuss things that many could benefit
from.

GO AHEAD, FORM YOUR OWN GHETTO, BUT COUNT ME OUT! THIS IS A "SHONDER."

David Seth Green
AT&T Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc. New Jersey
phone: (201) 564-2583
email: ..ihnp4!mhuxi!dsg

ask@cbrma.UUCP (A.S.Kamlet) (03/23/86)

In article <418@mhuxi.UUCP> dsg@mhuxi.UUCP (David S. Green) writes:
>
>[]
>I found out about the "moderated mailing list" a few days ago.
>I scanned the original posting about it and some follow-ups
>and *assumed* that it would not form.  How wrong I was!
>My initial reaction was one of extreme anger at the concept.
>What came to my mind was the part in the Pesach Haggadah about
>the four sons - which I am not going to repeat, now.
>
>Yes, we have all four sons reading and posting to this group, to
>a more or less degree.  To me, it is totally against everything
>I believe is "Jewish" to have a mail list for the so-called
>"wise son" that excludes the other three.  Don't give me any 
:
:
>GO AHEAD, FORM YOUR OWN GHETTO, BUT COUNT ME OUT! THIS IS A "SHONDER."
>
>David Seth Green
>AT&T Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc. New Jersey
>phone: (201) 564-2583
>email: ..ihnp4!mhuxi!dsg

Very well stated!!   I completely agree.

I hope the moderators/readers will rejoin the real world.
-- 
Art Kamlet   AT&T Bell Laboratories  Columbus  {cbosgd | ihnp4}!cbrma!ask

ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless @ Imperial Propoganda) (03/27/86)

> >GO AHEAD, FORM YOUR OWN GHETTO, BUT COUNT ME OUT! THIS IS A "SHONDER."
> >email: ..ihnp4!mhuxi!dsg
> Very well stated!!   I completely agree.
> 
> I hope the moderators/readers will rejoin the real world.
> Art Kamlet   AT&T Bell Laboratories  Columbus  {cbosgd | ihnp4}!cbrma!ask

Who says we left?  I certainly didn't unsubscribe to any group!

			{dual,lll-crg,ucbvax}!ucdavis!vega!ccrdave

friedman@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU ( -Gadi ) (03/28/86)

Oh, I don't know.  I'm sorta glad they left.  Saves wear on my
'N' key.  I'm really into all that hocus pocus anyway.  I hered a
Lubavech Rabi talk about jewish mystacism once, and I don't know
if I want to be connected to them in any way...  Those guys actually
believe they can influence world events by 'tampering'.  The guy
claimed his head Rabi moved the war from Israel to Lebanon!!!
    When I was standing at our zionist table at the commons, the local
Chabad guy came up.  When I asked him when he plans to go to  Israel,
he said "I'm already packed, just as soon as the machiach arives".
Give me a break OK!!!  On the other hand, Israel is better off with
guys like him here.
    I guess I'm just pissed off.
                                 -Gadi
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