yannis@ucbingres (05/08/84)
From: yannis@ucbingres (Yannis Ioannidis) Mia pou to HY100 egine to agaphmeno thema tou network, mpainw ki egw ston agwna. Kat' archas h adrh perigrafh pou edwse o Manwlhs moy aresei, apo thn apopsh oti tha soy mathainei olh thn "saltsa" gyrw apo tous ypologistes dinwnndas soy ena aisthiima gia to peri tinos prokeitai. Einai kati poy egw toulachiston den to eicha kai epeidh oloi thowroun oti einai pragmata poy ta xereis den soy ta anaferoun poythena, me apotelesma na kathesai esy na pasaxeis na ta vreis. Oson aphora ta scholia gia thn glwssa poy tha chrhsimopoihthei an ypothesoume oti ola ta paidia edw (sthn Amerikh) paizoun me thn Basic kai meta den echoun kammia dyskolia na kanoun sovara pragmata me alles glwsses, den nomizw mia tetoia glwssa na einai provlhma gia ena tetoio mathhma. Allwste h Basic den einai mia glwssa poy na thn chrhsimopoihseis etsi wste na soy dhmiourgei kai synhthies. Twra kai liga scholia gia thn Lisp. Oson aphora thn chrhsh ths san eisagwgiko mathhma opws sto MIT nomizw oti den einai mia kalh idea. Sto MIT symvainei giati vasika h LISP einai to mwro toy MIT kai thn paraprosechoun. Den ths leipoun ta goto's ( an kai ayto den einai to megalo ths provlhma ,) kai einai mia glwssa arketa endiapherousa men alla me arketa eidiko charakthra. Pouthena allou ektos apo to MIT den xerw na chreisimopoihtai gia otidhpote allo ektos apo AI efarmoges. Nomizw oti h Pascal gia to HY140 ( programmatismos ) kai h C gia to HY240 ( Domes Dedomenwn ) einai petychhmenes ekloges. To scholio oti kapoios prepei na xerei LISP prin na parei to ma- thhma gia thn Technhth Nohmosynh ( HY470 ) den nomizw na einai apolyto. Fetos phra to antistoicho mathhma edw sto Berkeley kai stis dyo prwtes evdomades afierwthhkan sthn LISP. Kanenas den fanhke na echei dyskolies me ayto akomh kai anthrwpoi poy den hxeran oyte ti einai LISP. Epomenws kati antistoicho mporei na ginei kai me to HY470. Alla kai an epimenoume o kosmos na mathainei LISP prin apo ayto, mia kai den vlepw na dida- sketai h C pouthena, isws na mporoume na echoume ena mathhma ( as poy- me HY150 ) san synecheia toy HY140 opoy na didasketai h C kai h LISP. Kati tetoig ginotan sto Harvard, to mathhma thewriwtan me vary fortio ( heavy load ) kai htan ypochrewtiko gia olous tous CS majors. Erchotan de meta apo ena mathhma me PASCAL. Ayta pros to paron. Geia Chara Yannis