yannis@ucbingres (06/08/84)
From: yannis@ucbingres (Yannis Ioannidis) Gia logariasmo tou synadelfou Stavrou Macraki vazw to parakatw minima sto newsgroup. ----------Forwarded message------------ From macrakis@harvard Thu Jun 7 16:54:06 1984 Received: from UCB-VAX.ARPA (ucbvax.ARPA) by ucbingres.ARPA (4.6/4.2) id AA22954; Thu, 7 Jun 84 16:53:56 PDT Received: from harvard.ARPA (harvard-gw.ARPA) by UCB-VAX.ARPA (4.28/4.27) id AA01868; Thu, 7 Jun 84 16:50:01 pdt Received: by harvard.ARPA (4.12/4.27) id AA16441; Thu, 7 Jun 84 19:50:40 edt Date: Thu, 7 Jun 84 19:50:40 edt From: macrakis@harvard (Stavros Macrakis) Message-Id: <8406072350.AA16441@harvard.ARPA> To: yannis@ucbingres.BERKELEY Subject: Grama tou Manoli Status: R Sinfono apolitos me tis gnomes tou Manoli, idika sto thema tis 'organoseos'. Ap'oti xero (kai egina melos tou newsgroup arketa arga), den iparhi organosis, alla mono ena mailing list tou sinithismenou idous opou boroume na sizitame ta themata pou mas endiaferoun. Tha'tan megalo lathos, pistevo, na milame san na boroume na apofasizoume themata kai ohi mono na ta sizitame. Yi'afto xafniastika otan kapios mas estile minima protinontas standard- ization glossas programatismou stin Ellada. Toso xafniastika (kai idika me tin idea oti tou C os afti ti glossa) pou apantisa san na'tan protasi episimi. Tora pou to skeftome ligo pio prosehtika, vlepo oti tha'tan kalitera na min apantiso sta tehnika themata. Telos panton, eyine, kai o Hristos ipe poli kalitera ap'oti tha borousa ego yiati de yinete. As protino ena allo thema sizitiseos: Eho akousi tin idea oti i Ellada bori na yini kentro programatizmou yia exagoyi. Afto pou den eho katalavi ine: 1) ti soi programmata sizitame; 2) pos tha yini to financing; 3) pyi tha'ne i pelates; kai 4) pyi tha'ne i programmatiste; Na'me ilikrinos, de xero pios ti protine afti tin idea kai ti ine i gnomes sas. I dikes mou i protes idees ine: 1) I perisoteri mas imaste fitite. Ehoume pira me programatismo 'on spec' (diladi horis singekrimeno pelati); Yia tin agora; 2) Prepi na agorasi kapios to hardware kai na plirosi tous programatistes. I elpizoume yia kanena 'Software Arts' i 'Lotus' i 'Peachtree'; An ine kratiko financing, fovoume tis kentrikes grafiokratikes apofasis. 3) Pios mas xeri apo marketing; 4) Tha'ne oli PhD's ap'tin Ameriki; (to leo yiati afti pou sizitane to thema ine stin Ameriki: i empiria tous ishi yi'aftous pou spoudazoun stin Ellada;) Elpizo k'ego na boresoume kapos na voithisoume tin Elliniki ikonomia. Mono de thelo na patho miopia ap'tin idikotita mou. Oti meletao ego pliroforiki de tha pi oti ine lisis yia tin Ellada. Stavros Macrakis Harvard C.S. Yia osous de me gnorizoun: kano Ph.D. me idikotita Programming Languages. Ime genimenos edo kai yi'afto vlepete kai lathi glossas kai orthografia fonitiki--ohi mono mou ine pio efkola etsi, alla mou miazi pio fisiko to transcription para to transliteration otan grafo stous Latinikous haraktires. Se Ellinika gramata, fisika, grafo oso boro se kanoniki orthografia. Elpizo na mi sas para-enohli.... -------------End of Forwarded message------------ Yannis