kateveni@Shasta (06/13/84)
From: Manolis Katevenis <kateveni@Shasta>
Tha' thela na apantisw se merika -- chtypita nomizw -- simeia twn
oswn eipe o Pavlos (Spyrakis) sto prosfato minima tou (#67@berkeley)
schetika me ton ilektroniko mas katalogo kai tous kindynous tou.
-(1)- Dierwtatai "poioi eimaste emeis pou tha diagrapsoume anthrwpous
apo ton katalogo, an diapistwsoume oti stelnoun junk-mail" (apo diko
mou scholio). DEN me katalabe, kaitoi nomizw oti to eipa safws: Egw
eipa oti yparchei ena programma pou EGW mporw na trechw panw sto
DIKO MOY MAILBOX twn minimatwn pou EGW LABAINW, kai pou sbinei apo
auto to mailbox (to diko mou MONO) minimata pou proerchontai apo ka-
poia login-names pou EGW dialegw. Auto einai entelws proswpiko, afora
MONO ta minimata pou pairnw egw, kai elpizw na min mou arnitheite to
dikaiwma na kanw o,ti thelw me to DIKO MOY mailbox!....
-(2)- Dierwtatai ti tha ginei an kapoios chrisimopoiisei ton katalogo
gia diafimisi, H gia na mathei poioi einai oi Ellines epistimones stin
Ameriki. (A) MA EPITELOUS AS DIALEXOUME: theloume na enimerwnomaste,
ara theloume na dinoume ti dieuthinsi mas gia na mas stelnoun nea,
H fobomaste kai theloume na kratame tis dieuthinseis mas mystikes?
Mipws i EAGE (Ethniki Akadimia Grammatwn kai Epistimwn), otan me to
kalo ginei kata to nomo plaisio, den ypotithetai oti tha kanei
katalogo olwn twn Ellinwn epistimonwn, kai tha ton echei gia na eido-
poiountai autoi gia ta simantika ston tomea tous? Tha fobomaste kai
tote na dwsoume ti dieuthinsi mas? (B) Diladi, ti einai auto to
toso kako pou fobomaste ama mathoune poioi eimaste? Mipws epaggelma-
tikes organwseis opws to IEEE kai to ACM den dinoun tis dieuthinseis
mas se tritous (synithws gia diafimiseis), meta apo adeia mas? Mipws,
ama kanw: "finger spirakis@nyu-acf1.arpa" den mou dinei ena karo
plirofories? Mipws ta Panepistimia kratane ta onomata mas mistika?
Mipws oi dimosieuseis mas den echoun tis dieuthinseis mas apanw?
An thelete, mporei kalista kapoios na zitisei na tou stelnountai
ta minimata twn net-news chwris na dimosieuthei to login tou -- apla
tha chrisimopoieitai to "Bcc" tou mail. Episis, afou ta net-news
einai dimosia panw se pollous ypologistes, mporei na ta diabazei
chwris pote na mas pei kan oti yparchei, an auto fobatai!
(G) Opws isws na echete prosexei, o katalogos mas DEN echei pote
stalthei panw sta net-news, pou einai dimosia. Auto DEN einai tychaio.
To eichame sizitisei kai apofasisei o Timos Sellis kai egw, otan oli
auti i istoria archize. O katalogos mas echei dianemithei mono se
EMAS tous idious. Fysika, den einai logiko na perimenoume oti ena
"mystiko" mporei na kratithei anamesa se tosous pollous anthrwpous,
kai oute blepw kanena logo na kratithei "mustikos" o katalogos autos.
Isa, isa, egw proteinw oti einai kalitera na ginei entelws dimosios.
Zitame ola mas na einai anoichta kai dimosia!
-(3)- Dierwtatai o Pavlos ti tha ginei an o katalogos chrisimopoiithei
gia na mirazountai minimata se merika mono proswpa ("filtrarisma").
An ennoei oti o apostoleas enos minimatos mporei na to steilei mono
se merikous anti se olous, tote auto einai anafaireto Syntagmatiko
tou dikaiwma (eleutheria tis epikoinwnias). An ennoei oti o apostoleas
to stelnei se olous, alla kapws auto filtraretai kai ftanei se merikous
mono, tote echoume ena endiaferon problima "reliability of the network
mail system" -- to geniko mail-system, ochi to elliniko mono! Egw,
den xerw kanena tropo na apaleifw minimata allwn apostolewn pou echoun
idi mpei sto diktyo, alla ypothetw oti oi diaforoi paranomoi pou spane
tin prostasia twn systimatwn tha xeroun kapoio tropo. Nomizete oti
tha ginoume pote toso spoudaioi wste na endiaferthoun gia mas? Isws
ama ginoume, na anakalypsoume kai kanenan pio axiopisto tropo epikoi-
nwnias -- einai kai ... "hot research topic"....
Auta gia simera -- mono mia yposimeiwsi: feugw aurio gia Ellada,
ws 26 Augoustou. Kalo kalokairi s' olous.
Manolis.