panos@utcsrgv.UUCP (Panos Economopoulos) (06/18/84)
Polu suzitisi ginetai teleftaia sxetika me tin "organwsi" i oxi olwn emas pou diavazoume to net.nlang.greek i vriskomaste se mia mailing list pou pros to paron mas enimerwnei gia to pioi alloi ellines exoun prosvasi se kapoion upologisti kai pws mporoume na epikoinwnisoume mazi tous. Kat'arxin, gia mas tous ellines, i lexi "organwsi" kai "na organwthoume" exei apoktisei polles kai poikiles simasies oi opoies kumainontai apo sxetika anekdota ws tis simasies pou mporei na vrei kaneis se lexiko. Epipleon, uparxoun vathmoi kai vathmoi organwsis, epitrepontas mia olokliri klimaka eleftherias stin ekfrasi kai kinisi twn melwn tis. Stin periptwsi mas, s'afto toulaxiston to stadio, den vlepw pws mporoume na milisoume gia organwsi sovaroteris morfis apo ena "loosely-coupled" diktyo xwris kentriki arxi oson afora apofaseis kai diadikasies kai ta toiauta, alla sxedon "fully-connected" oson afora tin enimerwsi, eidopoiisi, akoma kai kinitopoiisi olwn emas sxetika me ta diafora themata pou mas endiaferoun kai pou kati mporei na ginei gi'auta. Ekeino pou einai xrisimo kai polu simantiko, einai to endiaferon apo olous mas sxetika me afton ton tropo epikoinwnias pou xrisimopoioume kai i prospatheia apo olous mas na kanoume plousia xrisi aftou tou mesou. Nai vevaia, eimaste meli tis IEEE i tis ACM alla poso apostasiopoiimenes einai gia tous perissoterous apo mas oles oi diadikasies apofasewn, eklogwn klp. kai poso mporoun na voithisoun tin enimerwsi mas parapanw apo oti filtraretai mexri to epipedo tou fulladiou pou mporei na mas steiloun i tis aggelias sena apo ta periodika pou eimaste sundromites? Pali milaw gia tous perissoterous apo mas pou eimaste apla meli. Edw, afti ti stigmi epikoinwnoume amesa, AMESA, me mia elaxisti kathisterisi ligwn orwn i imerwn, kai milame elefthera, suzutwntas elefthera. Einai nomizw polu vasiko af'enos na gnwristoume kalitera kai af'eterou na diapistwsoume siga siga tis dinatotites mas kai ta provlimata sta opoia mporoume na voithisoume. Kai nomizw oti gia na ginei afto, xreiazomaste prwta-prwta enimerwsi. Kai polles suzitiseis. Kai gnwmes. Oloi kati exoume na poume. Ekei pou mporei na voithisei o kathenas mas, einai toulaxiston sto na skefti ta diafora themata pou emfanizontai kai na pi tin gnwmi tou. Sumfwnw (kai exei sumvei) oti mporei kapoios allos na prolave kai na ekfrase mia gnwmi paromoia me tin diki mas kai isws na ta'pe kalutera. Den exei simasia! Prepei, nomizw, kai meis na poume estw se mia grammi :nomizw afto i ekeino/sumfwnw-diafwnw. Afti ti stigmi, i idea mou einai oti ekfrazomaste ligotero ap'oti i sovarotita twn thematwn pou exoun anaferthei, dikaiologei. Diladi, eimaste akoma ligo vastigmenoi. Skefteite loipon, na mpei kai mia organwsi afstiri apo panw kai na prepei na dioxeteuoume tin gnwmi kai ti fwni mas mesa apo diafora kanalia pou epivalame ston eafto mas!! Ekeino pou xreiazetai, (nomizw), einai na milisoume oloi. Na noiwsoume oloi oti afto to meso epikoinwnias mas afora perissotero ap'oso mas afora i anagnwsi mias efimeridas i periodikou, kai oti einai pros wfelos mas na sumetexoume. Kai vevaia ekeino pou, nomizw, mas enwnei afti ti stigmi einai to oti oloi eimaste Ellines, oi perissoteroi exoume fugei apo tin Ellada gia 2,3,...,i,... xronia kai endiaferomaste gia to ti ginetai stin Ellada ston tomea tis techcnologias, epistimis, morfwsis, douleias, xipnimatos, kai ap'oti fainetai, nomizoume oti isws kati mporei na ginei pros wfelos diko mas kai tou topou mas, an valoume kapote (pantws prin apo to 2000) tis dinatotites mas na doulepsoun se kapoio vathmo (e% ws 100% : e>0) gia ton topo mas. Fysika, uparxoun kai themata pou mas endiaferoun san Ellines ston xwro tis Boreias Amerikis, alla mexri stigmis den exoun emfanistei tetoia. Ekei pou xreiazetai organwsi, einai stin enimerwsi mas. Paradeigma: Sto berkeley, mporoume na stelnoume munimata gia forwarding, an den mporoume na to kanoume apo tin mixani mas. Ekei akoma, stelnoun diafora nea apo tin Kriti. Emeis, edw sto Toronto, stelnoume ta munimata tou net.nlang.greek stin Kriti gia tin diki tous enimerwsi mias kai den pairnoun ta nea. O Xristos Papadimitriou exei polli gnwsi gia to poia einai i katastasi sto Polytexneio kai stin Athina (kai mas enimerwnei) Alloi isws xeroun ti ginetai stin Thessaloniki, Xanthi klp. Alloi isws xeroun ti ginetai sxetika me tis etairies stin Ellada. Kati eipwthike ws twra. Oti omws exei emfanistei sto network ws twra einai olo? Tosa mono xeroume apo to oti ginetai stin Ellada? Osoi xeroune kati pou tha einai enimerwtiko gia olous, tha prepei na to anakoinwsoun wste na enimerwthoun kai oi upoloipoi. Isws mporoume na anathesoume se merikous na kratan stenwteri epafi me merika "metwpa" kai na anakoinwnoun tis plirofories pou exoun. Twra, an merikoi apo mas arxisoume na fovountai mipws ginetai filtrarisma twn pliroforiwn, as valoume 2,3,...,n na mazevoun nea! Ma an pali fovomaste o enas ton allo, tote ti mellon exoume san synolo? Sto katw-katw, o kathenas apo mas einai o apolutos kritis tou an mporei na anakoinwsei kati pou xerei kai se poious tha to pei. Kai epeita, nomizw oti tha sumfwnisete, oti an kapoios thelei na metadwsei plirofories epilektika se orismenous, uparxoun asfalesteroi tropoi apo ena koino diktyo upologistwn pou orgwnei oli tin Ameriki. Omws afto den einai to problima mas! Afto pou suzutame edw, einai na anakoinwnontai sto network, diladi se olous, themata ta opoia einai endiaferonta se olous, kai kati mporei na vgei apo tin koinopoiisi tous, eite enimerwsi=>information=>knowledge, eite pithanes luseis. Oso gia ta ereunitika mas endiaferonta, pros to sumferon mas einai na ginoun gnwsta. Gia ti allwste paei kaneis se conferences para gia na sunantithei me diaforous anthrwpous? Ta papers ta diavazei kai apo ta proceedings. Kanenas, allwste, den mas zitise katathesi. Oso gia to ti kanei o kathenas sta munimata pou tou erxontai, einai anafaireto dikaiwma tou kai sumfwnw me to Manwli, o opoios ethese polu kala to thema. Oli afti i istoria stirizetai stin empistosuni. Kai sto katw-katw, milame gia pliroforisi, pou o kathenas mporei na parei, an prospathisei arketa. Oso gia tis gnwmes mas, se themata pou exoume gnwmi, prepei na milisoume. Alloiws, pws tha ginoun ekeina pou theloume?? Pistevw, oti afti ti stigmi ekeino pou xreiazomaste einai eleftheri suzitisi kai oxi periorismos ston tropo pou ekfrazomaste. Poso mallon, episimi organwsi! Ekei pou mporoume na organwthoume, einai stin kaliteri pliroforisi mas. Pistevw, oti me eleftheri suzitisi, tha mporesoume na apoktisoume epignwsi twn anagwn pou uparxoun, twn dunatotitwn mas, kai tou ti mporoume na kanoume. Mexri na arxisoun na diafainontai ta pragmata katharotera, den nomizw oti xreiazetai "episimi" organwsi. Argotera, i idea tis "enwsis" i tis "organwsis" tha einai isws aparaititi. Oxi omws twra. Kai mia kai upoptevomai oti kapoios tha arxisei na kanei dimopsiphisma kai na mazevei gnwmes, na ton voithisw: OIKONOMOPOULOS: -Oxi enwsi i organwsi twra. Isws, argotera. -Perissoteri summetoxi sta koina tou net.nlang.greek Oloi na koinopoioume endiaferonta themata, kai na ekfrazoume tis apopseis mas. -Nai, na organwsoume kalitera tin enimerwsi mas, pithanon me ethelontiki prosfora. -- Panos Oikonomopoulos --