spirakis@NYU-CSD2 (12/20/84)
From: spirakis@NYU-CSD2 (spirakis) SXOLIO STIS APOPSEIS TOU NIKOU BOURI An kai den exw dei to gramma pou kykloforei , mporw na pw merika pragmata panw sta poly sovara kai genika sxolia tou synadelfou Nikou Mpouri. Kai egw nomizw oti oloi oi ellines polites prepei na einai isoi apenanti sto nomo kai synepws , an einai na ginei i theiteia tou stratou pio "logiki" gia tous epistimones , tha prepei na ginei pio logiki kai gia tous ergates , tous agrotes klp... Diladi , to pio dikaio aitima isws einai mia SYNOLIKI rythmisi tou stratiwtikou , wste (1) na meiwthei i theitia kai (2) o Kathe enas na ypeiretei (efoson yparxei logos amynas tis xwras) se tomea ANALOGA me tin apasxolisi tou . Gia na min yparxoun ola ta (polles fores alithina) parapona gia katapiesi sto strato, loxies, autokto- nies klp. THA PREPEI NA GINEI OUSIASTIKOS EKDIMOKRATISMOS TOY STRATOU KAI NA PROSTATEFTEI STIN PRAKSI H PROSWPIKOTITA TOY KATHE FANTAROU. Ki erxomai twra sto simeio pou tou grammatos toy Nikou pou diafwnw teleiws. FILE NIKO , H SHMERINH KATASTASH STIN ELLADA DEN EINAI EKSISOU EYTHYNH "OLWN TWN MANADWN MAS". STHN ELLADA YPARXOUN TAKSEIS KAI OIKONOMIKA SYMFERONTA POY EFTIAKSAN KAI DIATHRISAN MIA KATASTASH. AMA THES EYTHYNES GIA THN KATASTASH STHN PAIDEIA , RWTA PIOS EFTIAKSE KAI DIATIRISE TON PALHO NOMO 815. AMA THES EYTHYNES GIA THN KYPRO , RWTA SAMPSWN , XOUNTA KAI KSENO PARAGONTA . H "ARXOUSA TAKSH" EXEI TIS EYTHYNES , FILE MOU . DIOTI O ERGATHS POY DIADILWNEI GIA TO PSWMI TOU , DEN KANEI "DECISION MAKING". TO DECISION MAKING TO KANEI (MEXRI TWRA) KAPOIA OIKONOMIKI OLIGARXIA H KAPOIOS EKPROSWPOS EKLEGMENOS ME SYSTHMA XXX (NOT equal) APLH ANALOGIKI. PWS NA SKEFTEI TO IDIO "ETHNIKA" O EKPROSWPOS ("ellhnas") THS TADE POLYETHNIKIS ME TON OPOIONDIPOTE FTWXO ERGAZOMENO ? TA DOGMATA TIS "ETHNIKIS YPERTAKSIKIS ENOTITAS" KYKLOFOROYN KATA KAIROUS GIA NA KALYPSOUN KAPOIA BRWMODOULEIA TIS ARXOUSAS TAKSHS KAI NA RIKSOUN EYTHYNES KAI STO LAO . AMA DIAVASOUME LIGI ISTORIA (H KAMIA EFIMERIDA) THA DOUME OTI O KOSMOS PALEYEI GIA MIA PIO DIKAIA KAI KALYTERI ELLADA. EGW ,NIKO MOY , DEN EFEYGA ME "APOGOYTEYSH" APO TIS SYNELEYSEIS. GIATI PISTEYA OTI MESA APO TIS SYNELEYSEIS KAI XARI STON AGWNA TWN FOITHTWN , THA ERTHOUN KALYTERES SYNTHIKES STIN PAIDEIA. GIA TO "POIOS FTAIEI" , LOIPON , EGW DIAFWNW ME SENA. GIA TO "TI THA GINEI GIA NA DIORTHWTHOUN TA PRAGMATA" , MPOROUME NA SYMFWNH- SOUME KAI NA BROUME MIA LYSH. As min piasoume edw ta themata twn "eidikwn rythmisewn " poy katafernan (kai katafernoun ?) merikoi (epistimones) naxoun apo to strato se "proswpiki" basi , i alla tetoia poy symvainoun kai "rixnoun ladi sti fwtia" gia tin syntaksi grammatwn pou na zitane "rythmiseis" gia "olous" tous epistimones. Filika --- Pavlos.
timos@ucbingres (12/20/84)
From: timos@ucbingres (Timos Sellis) File Pavlo, Pisteuw pws poly swsta topothetises to provlima stin alithini tou diastasi. Pws sto strato den chreiazomaste oute axizei na paleuoume gia merikes rythmiseis alla gia ena syno- liko ekdimokratismo. Kai AYTO ISWS PREPEI KAI AXIZEI NA TO PROWTHISOYME MESA APO ENA GRAMMA , kai kyriws twra pou den eimaste pia mia mikri omada filwn alla mia ekatosti filoi. Min xechanas oti kai sy se ena simeio tis apantisis sou ston Niko les oti i apascholisi sto strato prepei nanai analogi me tin eidikotita tou kathenos. Den to vlepeis vevaia auto san mia "eidiki rythmisi" alla kati pou simainei arketa se schesi me ton ekdimokratismo tou stratou. Na noi- wthei o kathe fantaros oti kathe allo para agareia kanei, pws kati prosferei (isws se antallagma allwn pragmatwn pou to kratos tou prosfere). Den paizei rolo pws tha to skeftei o kathenas mas, simasia echei NA MHN NOIWSEI XAMENOS GIA DYO XPONIA. Kai yparchoun polloi tropoi na ginei auto. Den nomizw oti diafwneis me ton Niko sta aitia tis katastasis , pisteuw oti ta sygekrimenopoieis. Oi manades kai papoudes mporoun na ginoun i archousa taxi i o xenos paragontas merikes genees pisw. Kai yparchoun sfalmata pou ginan poly palia kai opws kai oi dyo symfwneite ta pername oloi twra. Polles fores echoume piasei tin kouventa gia tin synoliki mas exartisi se schesi me tin technologia. Den thelei poly na epektathoun auta kai sto politiko kai oikono- miko tomea (mporei akoma kai na yparchei to provlima tou augou kai tis kotas edw). Ena einai omws sigouro erwtima : TI KANOYME EMEIS POY EXOYME THN EYKAIPIA MA BGOYME EXW APO TH XWPA KAI NA KANOYME MIA KPITIKH LIGWTEPO EPHREASMENOI APO OTI OTAN HMASTAN EKEI ; Milame , milame , alla chreiazontai kai praxeis. Pera apo to proswpiko epipedo. Kai isws auto to gramma na einai mia eukairia. Filika, Timos Y.G. Mporei o Nikos na velei to gramma sta nea wste na doume ti morfi echei twra ;