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spirakis@NYU-CSD2 (12/20/84)

From: spirakis@NYU-CSD2 (spirakis)


		   SXOLIO STIS APOPSEIS TOU NIKOU BOURI

  An kai den exw dei to gramma pou kykloforei , mporw na pw merika
pragmata panw sta poly sovara kai genika sxolia tou synadelfou Nikou
Mpouri.
 Kai egw nomizw oti oloi oi ellines polites prepei na einai isoi
 apenanti sto nomo kai synepws , an einai na ginei  i theiteia tou
 stratou pio "logiki" gia tous epistimones , tha prepei na ginei pio
 logiki kai gia tous ergates , tous agrotes klp...
 Diladi , to pio dikaio aitima isws einai mia SYNOLIKI rythmisi tou
 stratiwtikou , wste (1) na meiwthei i theitia kai (2) o Kathe enas
 na ypeiretei (efoson yparxei logos amynas tis xwras) se tomea 
 ANALOGA me tin apasxolisi tou . Gia na min yparxoun ola ta (polles
 fores alithina) parapona gia katapiesi sto strato, loxies, autokto-
 nies klp. THA PREPEI NA GINEI OUSIASTIKOS EKDIMOKRATISMOS TOY
 STRATOU KAI NA  PROSTATEFTEI STIN PRAKSI H PROSWPIKOTITA TOY KATHE
 FANTAROU.

Ki erxomai twra sto simeio pou tou grammatos toy Nikou pou diafwnw
teleiws.
 FILE NIKO , H SHMERINH KATASTASH STIN ELLADA DEN EINAI EKSISOU 
 EYTHYNH "OLWN TWN MANADWN MAS". STHN ELLADA YPARXOUN TAKSEIS KAI
 OIKONOMIKA SYMFERONTA POY EFTIAKSAN KAI DIATHRISAN MIA KATASTASH.
 AMA THES EYTHYNES GIA THN KATASTASH STHN PAIDEIA , RWTA PIOS EFTIAKSE
 KAI DIATIRISE TON PALHO NOMO 815. AMA THES EYTHYNES GIA THN KYPRO ,
 RWTA SAMPSWN , XOUNTA  KAI KSENO PARAGONTA . H "ARXOUSA TAKSH" EXEI
 TIS EYTHYNES , FILE MOU  .  DIOTI O ERGATHS POY DIADILWNEI GIA TO
 PSWMI TOU , DEN KANEI "DECISION MAKING". TO DECISION MAKING TO
 KANEI (MEXRI TWRA) KAPOIA OIKONOMIKI OLIGARXIA H KAPOIOS EKPROSWPOS
 EKLEGMENOS ME SYSTHMA XXX (NOT equal) APLH ANALOGIKI.

 PWS NA SKEFTEI TO IDIO "ETHNIKA" O EKPROSWPOS ("ellhnas") THS TADE
 POLYETHNIKIS ME TON OPOIONDIPOTE FTWXO ERGAZOMENO ? TA DOGMATA TIS
 "ETHNIKIS YPERTAKSIKIS ENOTITAS" KYKLOFOROYN KATA KAIROUS GIA NA
 KALYPSOUN KAPOIA BRWMODOULEIA TIS ARXOUSAS TAKSHS KAI NA RIKSOUN
 EYTHYNES KAI STO LAO .

 AMA DIAVASOUME LIGI ISTORIA (H KAMIA EFIMERIDA) THA DOUME OTI O
 KOSMOS PALEYEI GIA MIA PIO DIKAIA KAI KALYTERI ELLADA. EGW ,NIKO
 MOY , DEN EFEYGA ME "APOGOYTEYSH" APO TIS SYNELEYSEIS. GIATI
 PISTEYA OTI MESA APO TIS SYNELEYSEIS KAI XARI STON AGWNA TWN 
 FOITHTWN , THA ERTHOUN KALYTERES SYNTHIKES STIN PAIDEIA.

 GIA TO "POIOS FTAIEI" , LOIPON , EGW DIAFWNW ME SENA. GIA TO "TI
 THA GINEI GIA NA DIORTHWTHOUN TA PRAGMATA" , MPOROUME NA SYMFWNH-
 SOUME KAI NA BROUME MIA LYSH.

 As min piasoume edw ta themata twn "eidikwn rythmisewn " poy
 katafernan (kai katafernoun ?) merikoi (epistimones) naxoun apo
 to strato se "proswpiki" basi , i alla tetoia poy symvainoun kai
 "rixnoun ladi sti fwtia" gia tin syntaksi grammatwn pou na zitane
 "rythmiseis" gia "olous" tous epistimones.

  Filika --- Pavlos.

timos@ucbingres (12/20/84)

From: timos@ucbingres (Timos Sellis)


File Pavlo,

	Pisteuw pws poly swsta topothetises to provlima stin
alithini tou diastasi. Pws sto strato den chreiazomaste oute
axizei na paleuoume gia merikes rythmiseis alla gia ena syno-
liko ekdimokratismo. Kai AYTO ISWS PREPEI KAI AXIZEI NA TO
PROWTHISOYME MESA APO ENA GRAMMA , kai kyriws twra pou den
eimaste pia mia mikri omada filwn alla mia ekatosti filoi.

	Min xechanas oti kai sy se ena simeio tis apantisis 
sou ston Niko les oti i apascholisi sto strato prepei nanai
analogi me tin eidikotita tou kathenos. Den to vlepeis vevaia
auto san mia "eidiki rythmisi" alla kati pou simainei
arketa se schesi me ton ekdimokratismo tou stratou. Na noi-
wthei o kathe fantaros oti kathe allo para agareia kanei,
pws kati prosferei (isws se antallagma allwn pragmatwn pou
to kratos tou prosfere). Den paizei rolo pws tha to skeftei
o kathenas mas,  simasia echei NA MHN NOIWSEI XAMENOS GIA
DYO XPONIA. Kai yparchoun polloi tropoi na ginei auto.

	Den nomizw oti diafwneis me ton Niko sta aitia tis
katastasis , pisteuw oti ta sygekrimenopoieis. Oi manades
kai papoudes mporoun na ginoun i archousa taxi i o xenos
paragontas merikes genees pisw. Kai yparchoun sfalmata pou
ginan poly palia kai opws kai oi dyo symfwneite ta pername
oloi twra. Polles fores echoume piasei tin kouventa gia
tin synoliki mas exartisi se schesi me tin technologia. Den
thelei poly na epektathoun auta kai sto politiko kai oikono-
miko tomea (mporei akoma kai na yparchei to provlima tou
augou kai tis kotas edw). Ena einai omws sigouro erwtima :

TI KANOYME EMEIS POY EXOYME THN EYKAIPIA MA BGOYME EXW APO
TH XWPA KAI NA KANOYME MIA KPITIKH LIGWTEPO EPHREASMENOI
APO OTI OTAN HMASTAN EKEI ;


Milame , milame , alla chreiazontai kai praxeis. Pera apo
to proswpiko epipedo. Kai isws auto to gramma na einai mia
eukairia.

	Filika, Timos

Y.G. Mporei o Nikos na velei to gramma sta nea wste na doume
     ti morfi echei twra ;