kolling@decwrl.DEC.COM (Karen Kolling) (02/03/86)
A short while ago someone on this news group mentioned that he uses agar(?) because gelatin is a by-product of killing animals. I hadn't known that. And a couple of days ago, I was reading a description of bone china when it dawned on me that..... You got it. So, what other products besides obvious stuff like leather goods fall in this class? I have a feeling I'm not avoiding everything I should be avoiding.....
michael@ucbiris.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Slone [(415)486-5954]) (02/03/86)
Fast food items which have been fried. For instance, McD french fries have been found to have high levels of cholesterol, thus implicating that they were fried in lard.
cgeiger@ut-ngp.UUCP (Charles S. Geiger, Esq.) (02/03/86)
By the way, film is also made with gelatin, which is, as you say, from animals. In fact, Kodak owns their own cattle farm for this express purpose. There aren't really any alternatives to this. There is a way to make your own film emulsion using eggs or other, more esoteric materials, but this is a *PAIN IN THE BUTT* and nearly impossible except for real photography fiends. This is a drag! charles s. geiger wage slave u. of texas
paf@cornell.UUCP (Peter Fenyes) (02/05/86)
glad you asked - i've always wondered how we get goose down for all
those nice warm coats. anybody know for sure?
petermrl@oddjob.UUCP (Scott R. Anderson) (02/07/86)
In article <150@cornell.UUCP> paf@cornell.UUCP (Peter Fenyes) writes: > >glad you asked - i've always wondered how we get goose down for all >those nice warm coats. anybody know for sure? A (vegetarian) friend of mine once assured me that geese are merely plucked, not skinned. -- Scott Anderson ihnp4!oddjob!kaos!sra
seb@mtgzy.UUCP (s.e.badian) (02/07/86)
I heard that most of the feathers used in down coats comes from China. You see, they eat a lot more duck over there and have plenty of duck feathers to spare. I'd imagine that only the most expensive down coats are made with eider duck down (the best) since eider ducks are pretty rare these days. If you look at the labels on many down coats you will find that they are made in China, so this seems to back up the information I've heard. Sharon Badian ihnp4!mtgzz!mtgzy!seb
guy@slu70.UUCP (Guy M. Smith) (02/10/86)
In article <150@cornell.UUCP>, paf@cornell.UUCP (Peter Fenyes) writes: > > glad you asked - i've always wondered how we get goose down for all > those nice warm coats. anybody know for sure? > > peter What my friend in the down garment business told me was that most of it comes from Poland and China (this information is about ten years old). My impression was that it is derived from slaughtered geese as he was complaining about the declining quality of down coming from younger and younger geese. I presume the same is true of duck down.
ray@vger.UUCP (Ray Swartz) (02/11/86)
In article <877@decwrl.DEC.COM>, kolling@decwrl.DEC.COM (Karen Kolling) writes: > ... > I have a feeling I'm not avoiding everything I should be avoiding..... Worschtecher Sauce has anchoives in it. Many kinds of tomato juices have this in it (those dogs). Recently I was on an airplane and decided to get some tomato juice and got SnapyTom Bloody Mary Mix. It contained W. Sauce... Ray Swartz
jacobson@fluke.UUCP (David Jacobson) (02/13/86)
> In article <150@cornell.UUCP> paf@cornell.UUCP (Peter Fenyes) writes: > > > >glad you asked - i've always wondered how we get goose down for all > >those nice warm coats. anybody know for sure? > > A (vegetarian) friend of mine once assured me that geese are merely > plucked, not skinned. > -- > > Scott Anderson > ihnp4!oddjob!kaos!sra Goose down is a "byproduct" of the European poulty industry. The reason the goose down prices went sky high back around '74 or '75 was that the European poulty farmers discovered that they got more goose meat for the money by slaughtering the geese when they were younger. Apparently younger geese have not developed much usable down. I read that in a backbacking magazine back then. I can't possibly remember which one, though. -- David Jacobson ...ihnp4!uw-beaver!fluke!jacobson