[net.consumers] credit cards and rent-a-cars

gyuri@cvl.UUCP (Gyorgy Fekete) (03/09/84)

I don't particularly believe in credit cards, and will resist applying
for one for as long as possible, although the pressure is there. Radio
Shack will not take my checks without a MAJOR credit card, but I never
shop there anyway. So far the only time not having a card hurt is when
I want to rent a car for a trip. Avis and Hertz, and as far as I  know
others  too require  major cards. Does anyone know a way to get around
this problem?

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stanwyck@ihuxr.UUCP (Don Stanwyck) (03/09/84)

Not directly in response to  the query, I have a slight flame.

On a recent trip to New Jersey (on business) I used Avis.  I rented the
car with my Visa.  The car was reserved for 1 day, and was returned on time.
Total charge, < $40.

Avis, when I rented the car, got a charge guarantee for > $200!  And they
took three weeks to get the charge through, which meant that $160 of my
charge limit was not available for my use.   (I had to call an get my limit
temporarily bumped when a car repair charge ($400) was not accepted when the
repair place called on my card - and I knew I had sufficient room.)

With regard to the original question, I know that certain companies (AT&T
among others) have agreements with some companies that we can use cash
and the company guarentees the payment.  It requires company i.d., but no
credit card.  I have used that means, and will again.  Next time I will tell
them it is cash, and not let them run a voucher until the exact charge is
known.

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wyse@ihuxq.UUCP (Neal C. Wyse) (03/09/84)

I'm not sure of a "normal" way around giving them plastic, although I managed
it once.

When I was looking for a job just before graduating, I interviewed out in LA.
The company was supposed to have a rental car there for me, but no car.
I must have looked sufficiently upset/scared/I don't know, because they gave me
a car without a credit card (I didn't have one).  When I called them later,
I've forgotten why, they were somewhat flabbergasted that I had a car.
(Turned out that the company had made all my reservations one day off.)

		Neal Wyse	ihnp4!ihuxq!wyse

werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (03/10/84)

x	(I can spit and hit a bug at 10 feet)

RE:	how to rent a car without plastic cards:

	many years back, it was possible to leave a deposit in form
	of travellers' checks.  I did it once, without double-signing
	the checks, pointing out to an understanding person, that he had
	a contract, my checks, and did not need more to sue me.  But if
	I countersigned the checks, I would then receive them back and
	be no longer protected should I lose them.

	Anyone know if that is still possible today ???

ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (03/14/84)

It seems to me that if the Rent-A-Car company had a legitimate
claim they could get the Travelers Check company to pay off on
the checks even though you hadn't signed them (there is even a
legal basis for this, but I don't want to call my free legal
service (dad) to find out exactly).

-Ron

zemon@felix.UUCP (03/16/84)

The rent-a-car companies don't actually require a credit
card although in practice they do.  You are always free do
post a (LARGE) cash bond when you rent a car instead of
leaving a credit card chit.

No one can require a credit card.  Remember what all our
cash says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public
and private."

	-- Art Zemon

rees@apollo.uucp (Jim Rees) (03/19/84)

  The rent-a-car companies don't actually require a credit
  card although in practice they do.  You are always free do
  post a (LARGE) cash bond when you rent a car instead of
  leaving a credit card chit.

  No one can require a credit card.  Remember what all our
  cash says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public
  and private."

I don't think that is necessarily true.  There is a tool rental
outfit in Seattle (Cain's) that will not rent to you unless you
either drive a car or are in the military (both of which are taken
as signs of great responsibility).  I called the Washington State
Attorney General about this and was told that as long as he is not
discriminating on the basis of race, religion, or other legally
prohibited criteria, he is free to do business with whoever he
wants.

The stuff about "legal tender" was discussed in net.misc a while
back.  I think the conclusion was that you could "tender" (offer)
US currency in good faith all you want, but no one is obligated
to do business with you (except perhaps the government itself).