[net.consumers] junk mail

mp@ganehd.UUCP (Scott Barman) (03/18/84)

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	To all who have recieved junk mail, please remember to tear whatever
you get in half.  I have had the misfortune of having someone go through my
trash and sending off for whatever trash that has been advertised.  It is
sometimes hard to convince some of these jerks that you didn't order their
cr*p.
	Also remember, you can refuse any mail sent to you; this includes
junk mail.  Just write REFUSED in big letters on the front, give it to
you postman, and let the company pay for return postage!!

Scott Barman
..!akgua!ganehd!coke!ugacsc!mp

andyb@dartvax.UUCP (Andy Behrens) (03/20/84)

>  Also remember, you can refuse any mail sent to you; this includes
>  junk mail.  Just write REFUSED in big letters on the front, give it to
>  you postman, and let the company pay for return postage!!

It won't do any good.  Third class mail won't get forwarded or returned.
If you refuse it, the local post office will throw it out.

-- 
			Andy Behrens
			P.O. Box 24, East Thetford, Vermont
			UUCP:  {decvax,linus,cornell,dalcs}!dartvax!andyb
			CSNET: andyb@dartmouth
			ARPA:  andyb%dartmouth@csnet-relay

dougs@tekecs.UUCP (03/21/84)

One way to deal with that portion of one's junk mail that includes a
postage-paid return envelope is to tape the envelope (empty, of course)
to a brick, and drop it in the nearest mail box. If the junk mailers
get bricked enough times, it is no longer economical to mass-mail their
drivel. And if enough postal carriers get hernias, maybe their manage-
ment will be motivated to eliminate the problem. And if neither scenario
occurs, the junk-mailees (that's us) may have to escalate to cinder
blocks.

				Doug Smith
				{...!tektronix!tekecs!dougs}
				ECS System Peripherals
				Tektronix, Inc.

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				Doug Smith
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				ECS System Peripherals
				Tektronix, Inc.

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paul@uiucuxc.UUCP (03/23/84)

#R:ganehd:-12300:uiucuxc:34200003:000:422
uiucuxc!paul    Mar 23 22:48:00 1984

Re: Taping postage paid envelopes to bricks.

Won't do a bit of good.  The local PO ashcans those as soon as they're
brought in from the dropbox.  This is according to an uncle who's worked
for the PO for some twenty odd years.

         Paul Pomes

uucp:    {decvax,ihnp4,pur-ee,ucbvax}!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!paul
US Mail: Paul Pomes, University of Illinois
         1304 W Springfield, Urbana, IL  61801
Phone:   217-333-6262

wmartin@brl-vgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (03/27/84)

Re returning Business-Reply mail taped to bricks:

I've heard of this for years; undoubtedly the mailers know of it too.
I have a hunch the USPS will toss out Business Reply mail taped to
a brick; however, if the brick is WRAPPED, and the Business-Reply
envelope or card is taped to the outside of this wrapping, it may
well go through.

If you pay attention to Business-Reply envelopes and cards, you will
see that some have fine print around the permit number and suchlike
that indicates the maximum weight that particular Business-Reply
form will be good for -- the USPS will probably not deliver heavy
objects over such weight limits, as they get paid on delivery and
the permit holder has an out to avoid paying in this case.  Note
also that some explicitly say "Business-Reply CARD", as opposed
to "Business-Reply MAIL" -- I think the former means that they
are only obligated to pay the postcard postage plus Business-Reply 
surcharge. However, you will see the "card" imprint on envelopes,
so I don't know what legal validity it has.

Will Martin

PS Where do you get those free bricks, anyway? :-) WM

ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (03/28/84)

I periodically get these unsolicited bags of mostly post-paid reply
cards (sent to me off some mailing list from a magazine I subscribe
to).  My solution is to pull out all the ones that are post paid and
drop them in the mailbox.  I decided on this after one day I actually
found something I wanted advertised on one of these postpaid cards.
Unfortunately there was no place on the card to write in your name
and address, one side was full add, and the other was the return
address.

-Ron

david@tekig.UUCP (David Hayes) (03/29/84)

One dastardly non-solution to junk mail is to take two
of the sign and send cards and glue them together so
there is a post paid address on BOTH SIDES!!

Just putting a hitch in their get along...

dave

wmartin@brl-vgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (03/30/84)

An amazing coincidence! I just finished reading a short story based
on this very subject! "All Things Come to Those Who Weight" by Robert
Grossbach, 1980, in F & SF, reprinted in Asimov's LAUGHING SPACE.
A tale of a scientist who invents a form of collapsium (super-dense
matter) and stuffs an envelope with it, creating a thousand-ton
return mailing to get back at his health-insurance company.