[net.consumers] CONOCO requested my SSN to issue a credit card. well ....

werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (04/20/84)

[ Any bug fixed creates 3 news ones - I guess, that's why ...... ]

Just got another of those oil-company credit card invitations, this
one from CONOCO.  I would not otherwise be tempted, but this one
includes the following phrase in RED:

	MUST  BE  SIGNED  AND  S.S.#  SHOWN  TO BE VALID.

I could not resist, left the SSN out, replaced with a warning:

	"according to the law you have no right to request it,
        and I refuse to provide my SSN !  Should you deny the
        card in result of this, you'll hear from my lawyer and
        I'll see you in court"

I wouldn't be surprised if it will provide enough work to keep a few
poor lawyers employed and off the street ....

	"Big Brother, let's not make it any easier for him"

		werner @ ut-ngp

rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (05/01/84)

An interesting sidelight - the University of Colorado has "student
identification numbers" which are the same as social security numbers.  You
need a student ID for lots of things.  This practice began about 13 years
ago, as I recall; prior to that, they had their own numbering system.
-- 
...Relax...don't worry...have a homebrew.		Dick Dunn
{hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd				(303) 444-5710 x3086

rbc@houxu.UUCP (R.CONNAGHAN) (05/03/84)

I remember hearing that it is not illegal to request
and use a persons SSN for record keeping and the such.

Its only illegal when "THEY" use it for something "bad".

ron@brl-vgr.UUCP (05/04/84)

Actually, it is none of their business.  Most places will make up
a number for you if you refuse to give your social security number.
I would guess that the real reason the credit people want it is to
make it easier to find you in the credit database that is probably
indexed by the SSN.

I had the option of not giving my SSN to the FAA when I got my pilots
license.  But its nice to reduce the number of numbers that I have to
remember.

-Ron