rpw3@fortune.UUCP (05/05/84)
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fortune!rpw3 May 4 21:29:00 1984
Yes, the library has paid the copyright owner. It BOUGHT the book.
(Whether the *author* was adequately paid or not is a matter between
said author and the publisher. ;-} )
Rob Warnock
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I wonder why its OK to take a book out of a library, read it, and return it, paying NOTHING to the copyright owner, but its not OK to copy the book and then read it? Either way, the copyright owner gets zero. Or does the library pay the owner? For the user, the legal way (using the library) is even cheaper than the illegal way (cause of copying costs).
lab@qubix.UUCP (05/11/84)
Re - difference between reading in library and copying it for later reading:
Same problem(s) as USING the diskette your friend bought and the
program(s) on it vs. COPYING the diskette for yourself.
1. You have removed the control on the resource
2. The logical extension would be to set up your own distributing system.
The publisher and copyright owner shell out $$ just to get the
production going. If you can save some of those costs (by working from
an already-produced copy), you are no better than the makers of Orange
and Pineapple - not paying Apple's R&D costs.
Supply and demand still works in the marketplace.
--
The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford
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decwrl!qubix!lab@Berkeley.ARPAgh@utai.UUCP (Graeme Hirst) (05/13/84)
>> I wonder why its OK to take a book out of a library, read it, and >> return it, paying NOTHING to the copyright owner, but its not OK >> to copy the book and then read it? Either way, the copyright owner >> gets zero. Or does the library pay the owner? Many countries of the world have "public lending rights" (PLR) payments to authors, which do compensate them for library use of their books. The usual method of implementation is for the government to pay the author a fixed amount annually for each copy of his/her book in a library. The libraries and patrons do not themselves have to pay. -- \\\\ Graeme Hirst University of Toronto Computer Science Department //// utcsrgv!utai!gh / gh.toronto@csnet-relay / 416-978-6277
keldsen@uo-vax1.UUCP (05/28/84)
Actually, public library use is one of the "author doesn't get any money"
items of the copyright act(s). It's right up there with the "fair use"
clause, as one of the things that an author gives up in order to receive
copyright protection.
- "Dak"
Dave Keldsen
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