[net.consumers] Looking for light waterbed equivalen

tihor@acf4.UUCP (06/22/84)

Nf-From: acf4!tihor    Jun 22 13:46:00 1984


There was a discussion in this group (or at least it ought to have
been) on various waterbeds and waterbed equivalents (air mattresses,
hollow core beds, etc.)  A friend of mine is very intreested in some of
these alternatives since her building is an old law tenenment and both
a little shaky and  without current blueprints to judge the support
level of the floors.

She REALLY wants a water bed or something similar.  Will anyone with a
copy of the old discussion, especially the part on the equivalents
which mostly sound lighter, an important consideration, 
please MAIL me a copy.

ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (06/24/84)

Actually, I am tired of people who insist that the weight of a water bed
is going to cause problems.  Even the building I am in (one of these new
concrete and HoJo cinderblock arrangements) has a no waterbed clause in
the rules.  Odd, since they consider it an adult apartment complex.  The
problem here is east coast mind set.  No apartment manager Denver or west
would make such a rule.

An average water bed (king size) weighs in at about 800 pounds and covers
about 30 square feet.  Your living room sofa covers probably about 18 square
feet and only puts it weight in the corners rather than distributing it over
the entire 18 square feet.  Now have five of your friends sit on it.  Unless
they've all been on good diets you've now stressed the floor more than twice
what a water bed does.  Worried?  Of course not.

Actually, I've lived in older (circa 1915) appartment buildings and row
houses.  Those, I'd worry less about than the 1960 ticky-tacky box private
home.  

-Ron

ron@brl-vgr.ARPA (06/24/84)

Actually, what a water bed most reminds you of when you get in it, if
you've had the benefit of having tried one, is an old feather bed.  You
might try that.

-Ron

waynez@houxh.UUCP (W.ZAKARAS) (06/28/84)

Where did you get hte number of 800 pounds for a king size waterbed??

My QUEEN size water bed weighs in at 1800 pounds.  <NO FLAMES, this is truth>

WayneZ...

P.S.  A bigger water problem is large fish tanks 55 gallons plus.  The 
square footage is less but the cubic amount is larger.

kal@trsvax.UUCP (06/30/84)

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trsvax!kal    Jun 29 18:22:00 1984

	I,too, am tired of all the talk about how much water beds weigh.
A water bed weighs less per square inch than a refrigerator.  Does your lease
have a no refrigerator clause?

	Seriously, there are alternatives to full fledged water beds.  We own
two water beds.  One is a standard water bed with frame and pedestal.  The
other is a flotation system.  It consists of a hollowed out foam rubber
mattress that sits on a heavy duty box spring.  The box spring is supported
by a frame with nine legs.  The bladder is only about 5 inches thick when
filled with water.  This not only provides less motion but less weight as
well.
	There are many advantages to the flotation system over the standard
water bed.  The most important one being that it uses regular queen size
sheets, alot cheaper than special water bed sheets.  Another advantage is
that if you ever decide you don't want a waterbed, you only need to replace
the mattress, not the entire bed.  We own a queen size regular bed mattress
and when our parents (who don't like water beds) visit, we empty the flotation
system and put the regular mattress on.  It keeps them happy.

	The main reason I purchased the floatation system is that water beds
are so hard to get out of.  You really have to push yourself up out of the
water.  This can be tough on your aching muscles early in the morning.  If
you don't like all of the motion of a regular water bed, the flotation
system provides a nice compromise.

	Most people who see our floation system don't realize that its a
water bed until they sit on it.  (The landlord will never know.)  And if
springs a leak, the water will accumualte in the foam rubber long before it
does any damage to the floor.

	I bought mine at a furniture store.  But I have also seen them at
Sears, Wards, and some water bed stores.  I highly recommend them.

					Sweet dreams,
					Kathy

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (07/09/84)

Gee, you're right.  I just got around 2000 lbs for king size.  But still,
you are right and fish tanks don't have safety liners.

-Ron