[net.consumers] Safe Deposit Boxes

agk@ihuxq.UUCP (Andy Kegel) (07/13/84)

This discussion on insurance photographs brought to mind a comment, the
source of which I cannot recall:

	When you select your safe deposit box, DON'T get one near the
	floor.  Bank vaults have been known to flood, destroying the
	contents of the lower boxes.  Could be quite a surprise.

	-andy kegel

wjm@whuxl.UUCP (MITCHELL) (07/14/84)

<gulp>
When looking for a safe deposit box, I'd also look at the degree of physical
security provided by the bank building and the location of the vault within
the building.  How secure are some of the vaults in bank branches in shopping
centers??
Also, I wouldn't pick a box at the end of a row of safe-deposit boxes, theves
have been known to start at the end of a row and drill through box after box,
cleaning them out, or a box in a row next to the outside wall of the vault.
Bill Mitchell (whuxl!wjm)

kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) (07/16/84)

And a thing NOT to put in safe deposit boxes: wills, go ahead and put
in a copy, but keep the original with your lawyer or somewhere else
safe(?).  In the case of a joint safe deposit box when one's spouse
dies, it can be a real pain for the survivor to get it out...(actually,
the problem is probably more universal, if your survivor's can't get
your will out of your safety deposit box when you kick off, well, there they
are, aren't they?  Depending on bank policy, it could take a court order
to get at it)
-- 
Ken Shoemaker, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca.
{pur-ee,hplabs,amd,scgvaxd,dual,idi,omsvax}!intelca!kds
---the above views are personal.  They may not represent those of Intel.

ajs@hpfcla.UUCP (07/17/84)

> In Texas, safe deposit boxes are sealed by the bank as soon
> as they know of the box-holder's demise...

In Colorado (a remarkably  sane state), the box is "sealed",  but can be
opened without much ado for a "will search", according to my lawyer.  It
is only  necessary  that a bank  officer be present  and that you show a
copy of a death  certificate.  Furthermore, boxes held in joint name are
apparently not sealed if only one of the owners dies.

It's still a good idea to route  copies of wills  elsewhere,  such as to
the  executor(s),  fiduciar(ies),  guardian(s),  and/or  beneficiar(ies)
named  therein.  My  understanding  is that the copies are *not* legally
acceptable,  however,  unless you can find at least one of the witnesses
who signed the original, and they testify in favor.  (I'd hope that most
of the time, if your will is  carefully  worded  and your  beneficiaries
amiable, it really wouldn't matter anyway.)

Alan Silverstein, {ihnp4 | hplabs}!hpfcla!ajs, 303-226-3800 x3053

ron@brl-tgr.UUCP (07/18/84)

A bad thing to do if you are married is to have JOINT accounts of any
type.  Make the Joint Tennants with Right of Survivorship.  This allows
the surviving spouse automatic control.

-Ron

rob@ctvax.UUCP (07/20/84)

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ctvax!rob    Jul 20 12:50:00 1984

In Texas, safe deposit boxes are sealed by the bank as soon
as they know of the box-holder's demise. The executor can 
get a court order to access the box and inventory it.
I believe the executor can remove the will and deliver
it to the court for probate. After the will has been
probated the executor may remove the contents of the safe
deposit box. This whole process is much easier if the
executor has a copy of the will. My will is in the safe
deposit box. My wife, my executor (in case my wife and I bite
the big one at the same time), and my lawyer each have a copy.

An alternative scheme is for each spouse to have a box in only
their name in which is kept the other spouse's will.

Morbid, isn't it?

Rob Spray
...convex!ctvax!rob