[net.consumers] Air Cleaners

dhk@hp-pcd.UUCP (dhk) (09/14/84)

The August or September (I don't have my copy right with me) issue of New
Shelter magazine had a pretty good test of air cleaning machines including
the ionization type as well as the fan-and-filter style.  I believe that the
best results came from the ionization systems.  You might want to check this
article out since it contained ratings, model numbers, etc for the systems
tested.

Dustin Kassman
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gino@voder.UUCP (Gino Bloch) (09/17/84)

[use a BIC for all flames]

>> I'm a smoker, and my smoke bothers people around me at work, and it's
>> time to do something about it.
You're right:  I strongly urge you to help *YOURSELF* as well by quitting.
-- 
Gene E. Bloch (...!nsc!voder!gino)

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (09/19/84)

Watch out for those god awful ION generators.  Someone once came up
with the great idea that Ozone is good for you.  It was a big favorite
of the quack medicine show people.  Ozone is not good for you, your
house plants, or anything made of rubber.  I did a research project
(back when I was still a biology student) on the effects of ozone on
plants.  It doesn't take that high of a concentration to make them sick.
It also turns out that a big tire wharehouse out in California was using
ozone generators and it was some time before they found out why all the
tires were rotting.

-Ron

figmo@tymix.UUCP (09/20/84)

I have a Pollenex Pure Air "99" in my office.  I used to be across
the hall from a chain-smoker, and after one day on the job I was up
wheezing all night.  The next day I went into my boss's office and
said "I NEED an air filtering machine!"  After getting the go-ahead
(as long as it didn't run over $20) I bought this one for $20.

The wheezing ceased to exist.

--Lynn Gold
Tymshare, Inc.
{...hplabs!tymix!figmo}

tierney@fortune.UUCP (09/21/84)

Boy oh Boy I can't agree more!

I work with smokers and *REALLY* do not like it!

I don't care how much "ecologizing" you do to the air,
you won't remove the irritation I feel when you light
up that cig!

charlie

seifert@ihuxl.UUCP (D.A. Seifert) (10/10/84)

> The *ONLY* valid complaint a person has about people smoking is the
> effect of the smoke on himself.  If there is no such effect, i.e. if
> the smoke is trapped by a filtration system, he should shut up.

Fine.  You design a filtration system that captures every single
molecule of smoke.  Then market it for a price so low that there
is no excuse for any room in any building in the world to be without
one.

Many modern buildings have "efficient" heating/cooling systems
that give very poor ventilation. (e.g. none, for practical purposes)
For example, the building I'm in keeps the temperature pretty
constant (at least compared to similar buildings), but there
is virtually no ventilation at all.  In talking to the designer,
I found out that the airflow is variable.  If the temperature
is already correct there *isn't any airflow* !!!  Someone pokes
their head in the door with a cigarette, and I get to breath
smoke for hours!  Not acceptable.  The rule of thumb is that
you need at least ten times as much airflow with smokers present
as you do with strictly non-smokers.  'twould be nice if they
actually followed the guidelines.

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