[net.consumers] kitchen appliances

dhk@hp-pcd.UUCP (dhk) (07/25/84)

Subject: Kitchen appliances

Perhaps this is an old subject but I would appreciate any advice, comments, or
warnings that the people out in net.land could give me.  I am in the process 
of building a house and will need to make some decisions concerning a stove
and dishwasher sometime in the next couple of months.  Some questions that
come to mind are: What brands are good?  What brands are bad?  Would a built-
in or free-standing range be better?  Would a self-cleanning or a continous-
cleanning oven be better?  ...?

I read the summary of comments about refrigerators and picked up alot from 
that, so I am hoping to benefit from your experiences with stoves and dish-
washers also.  Mail any comments to me and if there is interest I will post
a summary.  

Thanks in advance,

Dustin Kassman
!hplabs!hp-pcd!dhk
Portable Computer Division 
Hewlett-Packard

bmg@tekecs.UUCP (Barbara Gniewosz Theus) (05/14/85)

We're going to be building a new house and are currently
in the process of selecting all of our appliances.  I was wondering
if any of you might have some suggestions.

We need:	range top (electric) 
		double oven   (is having one convection oven worth it?)
		dishwasher
	also:
		built-in vacuum system

Any comments would be appreciated.  Either brands or features you would
look for or avoid.


			Thanks
			tektronix!tekecs!bmg

klein@ucbcad.UUCP (Mike Klein) (05/15/85)

> We're going to be building a new house and are currently
> in the process of selecting all of our appliances.  I was wondering
> if any of you might have some suggestions.

At a big "home improvement" show in San Francisco recently, we looked at
the various vendors of kitchen equipment.  For ranges at least we like
the Wolf brand best.  This is more restaurant-style equipment, but comes
in some styles that look fine in a home.  It's big so you need to make
special allowances for it in your kitchen.  The best part about the ranges
are the gas burners... you can adjust them from the tiniest flame (barely
visible around the burner) to a bonfire.  The burners are very large
and distribute the heat evenly over a large area.

Are there others that are great quality that we haven't seen?
-- 

		-Mike Klein
		...!ucbvax!ucbmerlin:klein	(UUCP)
		klein%ucbmerlin@berkeley	(ARPA)

ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (05/15/85)

> 		range top (electric) 
Gee, I've had both, and I prefer GAS.  It's not so hard to get it out
here, but in Denver they looked at me real funny when I asked for it.
Cook with FIRE?  That went out in the stone age.  My parents new house
(which the builder piped and wired for either gas or electric) has electric
ovens but a gas cook top.

carl@bdaemon.UUCP (carl) (05/17/85)

> > 		range top (electric) 
> Gee, I've had both, and I prefer GAS.  It's not so hard to get it out
> here, but in Denver they looked at me real funny when I asked for it.
  etc.

I had no trouble getting a gas counter top and electric oven in Boulder, CO
18 years ago.  Just replaced the counter top with electric ignition.  For
my money, this is an unbeatable combination (had it in NJ too).

Carl Brandauer
{allegra|amd|attunix|cbosgd|ucbvax}!nbires!bdaemon!carl

doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) (05/20/85)

> Gee, I've had both, and I prefer GAS.  It's not so hard to get it out
> here, but in Denver they looked at me real funny when I asked for it.
> Cook with FIRE?  That went out in the stone age.  My parents new house
> (which the builder piped and wired for either gas or electric) has electric
> ovens but a gas cook top.

The usual reason for installing electric instead of gas appliances is
probably not that the consumer prefers it, just that a gas cook-top is
darned hard to use in an all-electric home.  In many areas (including
the Phoenix area where I live), natural gas connections have not been
allowed under residential construction permits for the last couple of
decades.  You have to live in the slums to find a house old enough to
have natural gas.  (I think that they recently started permitting new
gas connections).
-- 
Doug Pardee -- Terak Corp. -- !{ihnp4,seismo,decvax}!noao!terak!doug
               ^^^^^--- soon to be CalComp

ec120bgt@sdcc3.UUCP (ANDREW VARE) (05/27/85)

In article <244@ucbcad.UUCP>, klein@ucbcad.UUCP (Mike Klein) writes:
> For ranges at least we like
> the Wolf brand best.  This is more restaurant-style equipment, but comes
> in some styles that look fine in a home.  It's big so you need to make
> special allowances for it in your kitchen.  The best part about the ranges
> are the gas burners... you can adjust them from the tiniest flame (barely
> visible around the burner) to a bonfire.  The burners are very large
> and distribute the heat evenly over a large area.
> 
> Are there others that are great quality that we haven't seen?
> 		-Mike Klein
> 		...!ucbvax!ucbmerlin:klein	(UUCP)
> 		klein%ucbmerlin@berkeley	(ARPA)

Mike
I have to agree with you here-the Wolf is a clearly superior range.
Other brands include US RANGES, who put out a similar line. I know a
kitchen designer in Mill Valley who stands fiercely by Wolfs, and
having used hers in her own kitchen, I can vouch for her
steadfastness. The flame control is superior. She puts in many, many
Wolfs, so many that she recommended some changes to the company, and
PRESTO! Her suggestion basically made the range less imposing
vertically, so it would fit into more kitchens. If it helps, her
name is Jane Phibbs, KITCHENS THAT WORK is her firm, and I'm sure
she'd be delighted to talk stove/ranges with anyone.

Andrew T. Vare
"All things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia!"