ix21@sdcc6.UUCP (David Whiteman) (06/19/85)
I have been waiting and holding my breathing for any thing about the new Coca-cola in this newsgroup. You see I heard a rumor that the reason Coca-cola switched their formula around was because they wanted to reduce the amount of coca extract in their formula. The price of coca leaves used for the extract was getting to be too expensive for the Coca-cola company. Also since Pepsi does not use any coca flavoring and Coca-cola now has less flavoring Coca-cola not tastes a lot closer to Pepsi. Now usually when I hear a rumor I see it posted by someone else on Usenet a few days later. I have not seen any postings on this rumor at all. Does this mean that this rumor may be true? -- ---- David Whiteman, University of California, San Diego
cm@unc.UUCP (Chuck Mosher) (06/20/85)
I also noticed that the new Coke uses corn syrup as a sweetener instead of sugar, which is also much cheaper! (It also tastes terrible.)
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (06/20/85)
You're right, the new Coke tastes just like Pepsi. If I wanted that sickeningly-sweet taste, I would have been a Pepsi drinker instead of a loyal Coca-Cola fan. I think the new Coke sucks, and I hope they go back to the old one. The reason *I* heard for the switch is because, although they were still #1, Pepsi has been getting a bigger and bigger share of the market with each passing year. Personally, I think it's a real boondoggle for Coke, since Pepsi has been having a field day with it in their ads. --Greg (Formerly a Coca-Cola drinker) -- {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!noao | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!noao} !hao!woods CSNET: woods@NCAR ARPA: woods%ncar@CSNET-RELAY
jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (06/21/85)
It's not only Coca Cola that's changed. Last week I went to the grocery store to buy (among other things) Ovaltine*. I like ovaltine, because it contains various vitamins, in reasonable doses (45% of the RDA for most of them). However, I found that they had changed the bottle it came in to a paper can. Further more, it said on the label "New, richer flavor." Well, changing the taste is not so bad... but there is another change not mentioned on the front label. It now has about HALF the vitamins it formerly had! I guess, like the alleged coca leaves, the cost of the vitamins was getting too expensive... so they changed the "taste" by reducing the vitamin content. *Ovaltine is a trademark of Sandoz pharmaceuticals. ------ PS - about Coca Cola*, by the way... about a week ago, the Orlando Sentinel conducted a survey on Coca Cola flavor. Of those surveyed, 90% said they liked the old flavor better! Several children interviewed had amusing comments. The best was "It tastes like nuclear waste." -- Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642 "Fheryl qnloernxf pebff bhe cngu, naq fgnl, znlor, njuvyr..."
ron@brl-tgr.ARPA (Ron Natalie <ron>) (06/21/85)
> > I also noticed that the new Coke uses corn syrup as a sweetener instead > of sugar, which is also much cheaper! (It also tastes terrible.) What's really amazing is that the people they are trying to compete with (PEPSI) still uses real Sugar. +Ron
summers@druca.UUCP (SummersCK) (06/22/85)
People may be interested that, according to the label, it appears that "Cherry Coke" is still based on the old formula (including sugar rather than high-fructose corn syrup). So, unless you are, or know, an old Coke hoarder your best bet is to get the Cherry Coke (until they change its formula, anyway) -- it's the closest to the "Real thing". Take care. Charles K. Summers ihnp4!druca!summers
levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) (06/22/85)
Is it possible that Coke changed the formula of their soft drink, even know- ing it would drop in popularity, because it calculated that the new formula would be so much cheaper to put out than the old that even with the drop in popularity that could be expected, they STILL would make more profit? here's hacking, dan levy at&t teletype corporation skokie, ill
mmb@lzwi.UUCP (M.BURNS) (06/22/85)
> I also noticed that the new Coke uses corn syrup as a sweetener instead > of sugar, which is also much cheaper! (It also tastes terrible.) A friend of mine can no longer drink coke as she is allergic to corn. Maurice M. Burns, The Lonely Squire of Gothos
jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (06/24/85)
> Is it possible that Coke changed the formula of their soft drink, even know- > ing it would drop in popularity, because it calculated that the new formula > would be so much cheaper to put out than the old that even with the drop in > popularity that could be expected, they STILL would make more profit? Actually, the way Coke is handling complaints is fairly revealing. If someone calls up their toll-free number to complain about the taste, they give him or her some coupons for some free Coke. According to their marketing representative, who was interviewed recently in the local newspaper, Coke only counts the call as being negative if the person won't take the coupons. It appears that maybe their rationale is that people will eventually learn to like the new taste of Coke. And this is probably true... The main flavor missing from the new Coke, in my opinion, is lemon. The old Coke had a distinct lemon taste. I don't know what coca leaves taste like... -- Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642 "Erny vfgf qba'g hfr Xbqnpuebzr."
john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) (06/25/85)
>From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) >Organization: Perkin-Elmer SDC, Orlando, Fl. >Message-ID: <1139@peora.UUCP> > >> Is it possible that Coke changed the formula of their soft drink, even know- >> ing it would drop in popularity, because it calculated that the new formula >> would be so much cheaper to put out than the old that even with the drop in >> popularity that could be expected, they STILL would make more profit? > >Actually, the way Coke is handling complaints is fairly revealing. If >someone calls up their toll-free number to complain about the taste, they >give him or her some coupons for some free Coke. According to their >marketing representative, who was interviewed recently in the local >newspaper, Coke only counts the call as being negative if the person won't >take the coupons. It appears that maybe their rationale is that people >will eventually learn to like the new taste of Coke. And this is probably >true... Also, have you seen the latest Bill Cosby ads for New Coke? In it, he talks about how he always liked the taste of Coke, but now thinks the new stuff is the best Coke ever. It appears that now Coke is resorting to an appeal to the "lost lambs". -- Name: John Ruschmeyer US Mail: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ 07764 Phone: (201) 222-6600 x366 UUCP: ...!vax135!petsd!moncol!john ...!princeton!moncol!john ...!pesnta!moncol!john Silly Quote: "He doesn't do anything right... He's saving the Old Pepsi." - Johnny Carson New COKE- the refreshment that pauses.
arnold@gatech.CSNET (Arnold Robbins) (06/25/85)
> People may be interested that, according to the label, it appears that > "Cherry Coke" is still based on the old formula (including sugar rather > than high-fructose corn syrup). So, unless you are, or know, an old > Coke hoarder your best bet is to get the Cherry Coke (until they change > its formula, anyway) -- it's the closest to the "Real thing". > > Take care. > Charles K. Summers > ihnp4!druca!summers I'm glad someone mentioned Cherry Coke. I do want to point out that Cherry Coke is currently only being test marketed -- it is not available all over the country/world. Atlanta, Denver, somewhere-in-Connecticut, and some towns in North and South Carolina (maybe a few others) are the test markets. An article in the Atlanta paper a couple of weeks back noted that in the test markets, Cherry Coke was getting about 2% to 8% of the soft drink markets in the test areas, and cutting heavily into the market for regular Coke! Personally, I agree that it is closest to the old Coke, and I really like it. They seem to have added more cherry than they had initially, which it needed. Anyway, if you can get Cherry Coke, enjoy it. If not, call up the Coke number and ask when it will be available in your area (1-800-GET-COKE). -- Arnold Robbins CSNET: arnold@gatech ARPA: arnold%gatech.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa UUCP: { akgua, allegra, hplabs, ihnp4, seismo, ut-sally }!gatech!arnold How come nobody likes good ideas when they don't come up with them?
bill@persci.UUCP (06/26/85)
>>> Is it possible that Coke changed the formula of their soft drink, even know- >>> ing it would drop in popularity, because it calculated that the new formula >>> would be so much cheaper to put out than the old that even with the drop in >>> popularity that could be expected, they STILL would make more profit? >> > [...] It appears that now Coke is resorting to an appeal to the "lost lambs". Heard on a Seattle radio station: "With every fill-up of Shell gasoline, you get a *FREE* six-pack of Coke." It seems they can't sell it, so they're giving it away! -- Bill Swan {ihnp4,decvax,allegra,...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill