[net.consumers] Used cars from car-rental companies

tamir@ucbvax.ARPA (Yuval Tamir) (06/22/85)

The major car-rental companies operate their own
used car lots. Rental cars are driven hard but the
companies maintain them pretty well and offer a warranty.

I would like to hear people's experiences/opinions regarding
the purchase of used cars from car-rental companies.
How badly are the cars damaged by the treatment they get from renters ?
Are they priced competitively ?
Do the companies live up to the warranty ?

I think there was a discussion of this topic within the last
two years but I was not follow it then.
If anybody out there kept an archive of the discussion, I would
appreciate receiving it.

If I get interesting responses, I will, of course, post
a summary on the net.
				    Yuval Tamir
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tamir@ucbvax.ARPA (Yuval Tamir) (06/29/85)

Attached are all the responses that I have received for
the following query:
>The major car-rental companies operate their own
>used car lots. Rental cars are driven hard but the
>companies maintain them pretty well and offer a warranty.
>
>I would like to hear people's experiences/opinions regarding
>the purchase of used cars from car-rental companies.
>How badly are the cars damaged by the treatment they get from renters ?
>
>Are they priced competitively ?
>Do the companies live up to the warranty ?

My summary is:
   Yes, rental cars do get abused more than other cars.
   The few people who have actually bought cars from rental
   companies got reasonably good deals.
   It is nice to have the warranty.
   As always, caveat emptor !

                                         Yuval Tamir
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	 UUCP: ucbvax!tamir
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	My father recently bought an '84 Toyota Corolla 4DR. Hatchback
from Hertz in Philadelphia. He is very happy with the car. The price wasn't
the best but wasn't bad either. He had a problem with it right after
he bought it, it wouldn't start, but Hertz fixed it for him right-away
so he is satisfied with their service. The body had a couple of very
small flaws and the carpet on the drivers side shows some wear.

	Make sure that if you buy from a rentel company that all of 
the stuff is in the trunk, like the jack spare etc....
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I know how I drive rental cars. I would not recommend buying one. I
have found out what happens when you put an automatic in reverse
while moving forward. (Lot's of noise and a sudden stop, no apparent
damage). You probably are safer with a full sized car, instead of a
sports car.
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As I have heard it, and it makes sense, is that the rental companies do
NOT take particularly good care of their cars.  The cars are used much
more heavily than a regular owner's car, and so for the same model year
you will get a car in worse condition.  The cars are sold when they
are likely to start costing too much to maintain for them to be worthwhile
to be kept by the rental company.  All in all, I would not buy one from
a rental company.

My source for these is the book others and I have been mentioning on and off
on net.auto, by Remar Sutton.
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Four years ago my wife and I bought a car from Budget Rent-A-Car.  It was a
year old and appeared to have been kept in very good condition.  There were
no rock chips or scratches in the paint.  There did not seem to be any
signs of body repair.  The engine was in fine shape.  Budget replaced a
defective seat belt retractor and a couple of burnt-out instrument panel
light bulbs.  The car looked as good as new.  Better than new, it had all
of the first-year mechanical bugs worked out and repaired.  The price was
at the low end of Blue Book.  They offered a reasonable warranty, but we
had no opportunity to see if they honored it (I have no reason to believe 
that they would not).  We will probably buy our next car from one of the
rental companies.  However, be careful and ask a lot of questions.  We saw
a Toyota with a burnt engine on another rental car lot.  The mechanic had
drained the oil but had forgotten to fill it again.  They were planning to
replace the burnt bearings, etc, and sell the car for a higher price
because of the low mileage!
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You have to remember that rental cars are often abused.  The one clear example
I remember was when a bunch of us were going out for beer and my friend
offered to drive in his rented car.  We were driving along at about 40MPH
and he went back and forth across the PRNDL (automatic transmission).  The
one comment I remember was, "Hear that clicking?  That's the parking pin
trying to go in!"
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In 1979 I bought a '78 Datsun B210 from an outlet in Everett Wash. owned by
Tropical Rent A Car of Hawaii, and aside from having sand in the rug, it
was in good condition.  I had it for 5 years and had no problems.
BTW, it had an automatic transmission.  Manual transmissions may receive
more abuse from rental users.
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