[net.consumers] solar water/heating equipment

lmc@cisden.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney) (09/19/85)

I'm in the process of considering a solar hot water/heating installation
to be retrofitted into the existing gas-fed water heater and forced air
heater, before the tax credits run out. Does anyone out there have any
experience with this? The system I'm considering has the following
characteristics:

	4 collectors, 32 sq ft each (this is for the Denver area)
	gravity drain, pump feed
	180 gallon water heat sink
	computer controls

The installed price is about $11,000. Does all this sound right? The
equipment manufacturer is Sunland Products of Phoenix, AZ.

If you have anything to tell me about this, e-mail it to

Lyle McElhaney
...(hao!nbires,boulder,denelcor)!cisden!lmc

fred@mot.UUCP (Fred Christiansen) (09/23/85)

re Sunland Solar of Phoenix, AZ:  we bought a system from them back in '82.
the solar panels are made by Lordan (sp?), an Israeli firm.  they appeared to
be the most efficient and most soundly built to us of any we looked at.  turns
out they are sort of the Cadillac of the line.  at least in Phoenix, efficiency
beyond a certain point has diminishing returns.  i suspect i could have gotten
away with a "Chevy" (as in cheaper) system without any loss in hot-water
producing ability.
	we've had absolutely no problems with the panels.  always enough hot
water (and we have only 2 panels).  however, i found their salesman to be
of the "used car" variety.  Sunland has had its wrists slapped, so to speak,
a few times around here.
	in the end, i could have spent less and saved more by buying an
evaporative cooler (even considering the tax rebate).
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dhk@hp-pcd.UUCP (dhk) (09/25/85)

(Tried to mail this to you but did not have any luck.)


Lyle,

I don't have a solar H2O heater but recently looked into the Solarhart system
for my house.  The system that I was looking into was a three panel, 80 tank,
passive system (no pumps [supposedly]).  The tank and panels mounted on the 
roof, of course, which allowed the panels to be filled with Freon which 
absorbed the solar heat and transferred it to the holding tank.  The panels 
contained no water to corrode them, which was very appealing.  The whole 
system, including installation, would have cost me around $4,000 and with the
tax credits the actual price was closer to $1700.  Not a bad deal, huh?  
Unfortunately, with only two people the payback period was a little longer
than I liked.  If I can tell you anything else about the system or get you any
addresses just let me know.

Dustin Kassman
!hplabs!hp-pcd!dhk
Hewlett-Packard
Corvallis, Oregon

PS. The system was supposed to supply 100% of my hot water needs in the summer
and 80% in the winter (because it rains so much around here in the winter).