[net.consumers] Cheap shampoo

goldman@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP (Ken Goldman) (10/16/85)

Well, after my wife got compliments from her hair dresser twice in a row
about her healthy looking hair, I think it's time to let the net in her 
secret. . .

Palmolive dishwashing detergent!

Consumer Reports mixed Dove into their last test, and it came out pretty
good, so we decided to try our detergent.  It doesn't seem any better than
'real' shampoo, but not any worse either, and quite a bit cheaper.

We tried Ivory liquid first, but like Palmolive better for 3 reasons:
 1- It seems to burn the eyes less
 2- It smells a bit better, although the smell lasts only about an hour
 3- It's green.  Ivory is white.  Shampoos are supposed to be green :-)

By the way, it also works as well as Woolite on sweaters and other hand
washing, again at a fraction of the price.

Usual disclaimers about not working for Palmolive, and I'll certainly
never get a job with Vidal Sassoon now.

tuba@ur-tut.UUCP (Jon Krueger) (10/19/85)

Ken Goldman writes:
>Consumer Reports mixed Dove into their last test, and it came out pretty
>good, so we decided to try our detergent.  It doesn't seem any better than
>'real' shampoo, but not any worse either, and quite a bit cheaper.

I think they used Colgate's "Octagon", and it was rated slightly worse
than most shampoos, but by no means near the bottom.  Interestingly,
Octogon is among the cheapest of diskwashing liquids, partly because
it's sold in 2-quart bottles.  This makes it a VERY cheap shampoo;
the per-ounce price is about a tenth that of most shampoos.  So
I too decided to give it a try.  I've been using it regularly for
about a year now, as dishwashing liquid, shampoo, hand soap, and
general cleaner.  It appears to do a good job on all tasks.  The
bottle states it's for "dishes and fine fabrics".  I occasionally
use it for laundry.  Seems to work fine there too.

I have to conclude that the industry is selling us soap in different
forms, colors, and fragrances so as to sell more and more expensive
types of cleaning products.  I understand "Top Job" and "Mr Clean"
form a case in point: I hear they're identical except for color, and
the advertising.  Top Job is advertised as a general cleaner, and Mr
Clean as a floor cleaner.


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levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) (10/22/85)

In article <174@ur-tut.UUCP>, tuba@ur-tut.UUCP (Jon Krueger) writes:
>Ken Goldman writes:
>>Consumer Reports mixed Dove into their last test, and it came out pretty
>>good, so we decided to try our detergent.  It doesn't seem any better than
>>'real' shampoo, but not any worse either, and quite a bit cheaper.
>
>I think they used Colgate's "Octagon", and it was rated slightly worse
>than most shampoos, but by no means near the bottom.  Interestingly,
>Octogon is among the cheapest of diskwashing liquids, partly because
>it's sold in 2-quart bottles.  This makes it a VERY cheap shampoo;
>the per-ounce price is about a tenth that of most shampoos.  So
>I too decided to give it a try.

Sounds like it could be kind of harsh to me.  Consumer Reports tested Dove
as a shampoo, eh?  (Or some other dishwashing liquid, the brand irrelevant;
I missed the original article on this somehow).  Funny, I remember reading
something in another consumer-oriented publication (from Readers' Digest,
maybe?) warning one NOT to use a dishwashing liquid as a shampoo.  I might
imagine it could irritate the scalp, and the eyelids and face if you were
not extremely careful to keep it out.  And the results might not be nice if
it got into your eyes.  The grease-emulsifying agents (surfactants) in
dishwashing liquids are different from those in commercial shampoos, and
are different from those in laundry detergents, for the most part.  I have
myself occasionally used a mild dish liquid if I have something really awful
in my hair (like after fooling around under my car) but it feels harsh on
my scalp.  And returning to the issue concerning the eyes, commercial sham-
poos supposedly are harmless to eyes (there is some controversy over the
required Draize [sp?] test for cosmetics using rabbits to test this, but
that is another story) but no such guarantee exists for dish liquids.  So
I would suggest extreme caution on the part of anyone who tries this.
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