[net.consumers] Info Wanted on Pulse Rate Gizmos

jackson@ttidcb.UUCP (Dick Jackson) (12/27/85)

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I would like to buy (inexpensively if possible) a device for measuring and
displaying my pulse rate while exercizing (e.g. using a rowing machine).
Can anyone recommend a particular model?  DAK has a wrist watch type thing
that supposedly does it - any comments?  A friend of mine has one which
clips on to your ear and works moderately well but not perfectly, that's
one of the reasons I'd like more information before rushing off to spend my
99 cents  (8-).

Thanks in advance for your input,

Dick Jackson

ron@hpfcla.UUCP (12/30/85)

My wife and I have an ear-clip type which came with our Nordic-Trak
and it is indeed a bit unreliable. (as well as slightly uncomfortable)

However, if you get it clipped on properly it it nice to have the readout
in a different place from the sensor. In this particular application the
readout is in front of your face where you can read it at all times while
exercising. The ones that clip onto the end of your finger tend to disrupt
your rhythm if you want to read it while in motion.


Ron Miller


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larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (12/30/85)

> I would like to buy (inexpensively if possible) a device for measuring and
> displaying my pulse rate while exercizing (e.g. using a rowing machine).
> Can anyone recommend a particular model?  DAK has a wrist watch type thing
> that supposedly does it - any comments?  A friend of mine has one which
> clips on to your ear and works moderately well but not perfectly, that's
> one of the reasons I'd like more information before rushing off to spend my
> 99 cents  (8-).

	The DAK unit works by taking an actual electrocardiogram (ECG) using
the wrist of one hand and the finger (touching the metal plate on the watch) of
the other hand as electrode points.  This is not as difficult as it may seem,
since the R-wave peak of the ECG signal measured under these conditions is
1 to 3 millivolts.
	The earlobe and finger units work on the principle of a plethysmograph
whereby an IR LED and phototransistor sense the actual volume expansion change
of the earlobe or finger with each heart beat.
	Movement of a plethysmograph sensor will easily cause measurement
errors, whereas ECG electrode movement is no where near as critical.
	I don't know of a consumer pulse rate device using an ECG other than
the above watch; this could be inconvenient since one has to move their finger
to the electrode plate on the watch each time for a measurement.  IF there were
a consumer ECG device using strap electrodes for each wrist, this would be best
of any method.
	If you don't mind an intermittent measurement, then the ECG watch may
be the best.

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mcmullen@convexs.UUCP (12/31/85)

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>I would like to buy (inexpensively if possible) a device for measuring and
>displaying my pulse rate while exercizing (e.g. using a rowing machine).
>Can anyone recommend a particular model?  DAK has a wrist watch type thing
>that supposedly does it - any comments?  A friend of mine has one which
>clips on to your ear and works moderately well but not perfectly, that's
>one of the reasons I'd like more information before rushing off to spend my
>99 cents  (8-).

>Thanks in advance for your input,

>Dick Jackson
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I don't know what you consider inexpensive, but for around 30 to 40 dollars
you can get a pulse recorder that fits on your fingertip.  Display is via
an LCD and it uses a button-sized AgO battery.   They are advertised
occasionally, in Smithsonian, New Yorker, etc. (You get the idea - upscale
consumers).    The only other place I have seen them is the Sharper
Image, store and catalogue, but that  was a while ago, about a year.

Try some of the bigger sporting goods stores in your area, not the 
conglamer-outlets, like Hermans.

ijk@hropus.UUCP (Ihor J. Kinal) (01/02/86)

I've had several pulse rate meters - my best advice is to try the
item out first (at least stationary, and preferably during the activity
for which you intend to use if for), and make sure you can return it 
if it's not suitable.

The wrist watch  type specifically recommends that you stop activity
when attempting to use it; since I like to use one when jogging to
make sure I'm at the proper training effect level (but not exceeding it),
I like to take my pulse every 5 minutes or so.  Not practical with this
device.

The little pulse meter that fits on your finger also carries a built
in stop-watch, with switching from modes fairly easy (unless your
wearing gloves, but that's true for many of these gizmos).  It has
an instantaneous mode and an averaging mode; it seemed a fairly good
buy; lasted a few years with a moderate amount of abuse, and is
probably the BEST BUY (as someone else has recommended).

Another nifty little device that I had for a while was shaped like
a batton, with electrodes (rings) on each end - you had to grasp
both sides to get a reading, but it responded very quickly (with
error rates being way off on occasion).  It used to have led readouts,
which was nice at night, but tended to wash out in sunlight.  Alas,
I once tripped and it's no longer functional.  I haven't
seen these advertised much lately, so I'm not sure if they're
still available.  I think the cost (last time I looked) was
about $200.  I believe the LED display has been replaced by LCD
(better for daytime,worse for night time), and was manufactured
by a company in Toronto..  Nifty device, but useless if you're
into rowing, or something where you don't want your hands thus burdened.

Another device I've seen has two electrodes (limited use, since the paste
on them wears off).  These would be great, except that I have a hairy
chest, and electrodes refuse to stick well. Plus replacing the electrodes
seemed to be a potentially expensive operation.

The ear lobe device seems like it may be a good compromise, since
it good be worn in all weather circumstances and would keep your
hands free.  But I haven't tried one yet.

Another device I've seen on the market was "The Coach" - this
had a belt, and on the belt were electrodes (I believe, it's been
a while).  If I remember correctly, it had lots of smarts and info
(i.e, different sounds if you went below your training level or
exceeded your max level).  Perhaps top of the line, with a price
tag to match.  Probably only worth it for the serious competitor
or those recovering from a heart condition.

Hope this helps.

Ihor Kinal
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throopw@dg_rtp.UUCP (Wayne Throop) (01/03/86)

> >I would like to buy (inexpensively if possible) a device for measuring and
> >displaying my pulse rate while exercizing (e.g. using a rowing machine).

> I don't know what you consider inexpensive, but for around 30 to 40 dollars
> you can get a pulse recorder that fits on your fingertip.

A sensor on a fingertip is probably not such a good idea for a rower.  I
have used a pulsemeter with a sensor clipped to the earlobe.  I'm afraid
I don't own one, but I know that at least one retail outlet for Schwynn
Air-Dyne(tm) exercise bikes (highly recommended, by the way, but costly)
offered them as a "sweetner" along with the bikes.  As a freebie with a
bike of that price, I'd guestimate the list price at 30-60 dollars.
The pulsemeter seemed to work adequately.

As a handy tip about ear-mounted optical pulse sensors: beware of strong
fluctuating light sources.  I know of someone who got *very* anomalous
readings due to excersizing where alternating shadow and sunlight fell
on the ear with the sensor.  Shading the excersize area solved the
problem.
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Wayne Throop at Data General, RTP, NC
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