[net.consumers] mailorder survey, PLUS some tips on buying from them

bennison@algol.DEC (Victor Bennison - DTN 381-2156) (01/18/86)

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Photographic Equipment Mail Order Company Survey 

Plus some tips on shopping from the mail order firms.

Here are the latest results of the survey.  You may send me your experiences 
anytime you want and I will keep the survey up to date.  Whenever there is 
enough new data to warrant it I will repost the survey results.  If you aren't
able to get through to me directly, then go ahead and post to net.rec.photo.

Name of Mail   		| Experience was:
     Order Company	| No problems | Minor hassles | Major hassles | Avoid |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
47th Street		|	6     |	      5       |       4       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
AAA			|	      |	              |               |   1   |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Abe's (Maine)		|	      |	              |       1       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Adorama			|	8     |	      3       |       1       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
B&H    			|	8     |	      1       |       1       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Calumet			|	2     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Cambridge		|	      |	              |       2       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Camera World		|	1     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Executive		|	1     |	      1       |       1       |   1   |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Focus (Honest Abe's)	|	3     |	      3       |       1       |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Foto-cell		|	      |	      1       |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Freestyle		|	1     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Garden			|	3     |	              |               |   1   |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Labelle	 (= La-Mere?)	|	2     |	      1       |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
New York Camera		|	      |	      1       |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Olden  			|	4     |	      1       |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Porter's		|	2     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Special Effects 	|	1     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Spiratone		|	3     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Sunshine		|	1     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+
Wall Street		|	1     |	              |               |       |
------------------------+-------------+---------------+---------------+-------+

Here are the rough meanings of the categories again:

No problems:   Got what you ordered, in reasonable time, at expected price,
    	       no unpleasant surprises.

Minor hassles: Minor delays, unpleasant saleperson, hard to get through
    	       to toll free line; probably not enough to keep you from 
    	       ordering from them again.

Major hassles: Major problems occurred, but you were satisfied enough with
    	       with the way they were resolved that you might consider 
    	       ordering from them again when you cool off.

Avoid:	       Major problems occurred that either were not satisfactorily
    	       corrected or that you feel were significant enough to begin
    	       with that you wouldn't consider ordering from them again
    	       under any circumstances.

Here are some tips for shopping via the mail order firms:

1.  ORDER BY CREDIT CARD ONLY.  Don't pay the credit card bill until you have
    received the goods in satisfactory condition.  To avoid interest charges,
    when you pay the rest of the credit card bill, include a note explaining 
    the contested charge.

2.  ASK WHAT THE SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGES WILL BE.  Most stores no longer
    just charge you the freight, but also include a sizable handling charge.

3.  ASK IF THE ITEM CARRIES A U.S. WARRANTY.  New York stores (but not others)
    now have to tell you whether what they are selling you carries a U.S. 
    warranty.  Grey market material does not carry a U.S. warranty and is 
    sold at a significantly lower price.  International warranties may be
    worthless, but you may not feel you need the warranty protection.  The
    advertized price is frequently the grey market price.

4.  DON'T AGREE TO BUY ANYTHING YOU HADN'T PLANNED TO BUY WHEN YOU CALLED.  
    Things like skylight filters, cases, etc., are usually just as cheap at
    your local camera store.  Don't buy anything on the phone salesman's 
    recommendations.  They are not there to help you. 

5.  WHEN YOU GET YOUR EQUIPMENT, TEST IT IMMEDIATELY.  If it is defective, call
    the mail order company immediately and arrange for returning it.  See #1
    above.  Most stores give you rather short period for returning defective
    equipment, so waste a roll of film and get it developed at a one day
    service place.

6.  ASK IF THE ITEM IS IN STOCK.  There appears, however, to be no reason to 
    believe their answer.

7.  Call around and get the best price with the desired warranty, including 
    shipping and handling.  Add 10 or 15 per cent for nuisance.  Then call 
    around to your local stores and see if they can come close.  Very 
    frequently they will.  

8.  Low end items, like small autofocus cameras, are frequently just as cheap,
    if not cheaper when you consider the shipping and handling, in the local 
    discount department stores.

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    				Vick Bennison
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