eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya) (10/09/85)
Two of my spare time books have recently included Darwin's Origin of Species and S. J. Gould's Ontogeny and Phylogeny. What is surprising about Darwin is that he anticipated most of his critics and include three chapters about problems with his ideas. He was quite critical of himself. What makes this surprising is that his critics have not really changed their arguments over the course of 100 years. Also less surprising is the lack of Darwin followers to neglient his comments about what constitutes a species and what is a variation. It appears Darwin was quite hesisitant (sp) to say humans were a "higher" life form when compared to other animals, again unlike the Social Darwinists. Gould's books are now quite popular, but I think his textbook contains greater content than his more popular books. He explores many popularizations of the concept of evolution and how it has affected Western thinking. Upon reading Darwin in light of the current CA textbook controversy, my impression is to forget all the texts between Darwin and Gould and just use Darwin since he covers both sides of his argument quite well. From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center {hplabs,ihnp4,dual,hao,decwrl,allegra}!ames!aurora!eugene emiya@ames-vmsb
werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (10/12/85)
> Two of my spare time books have recently included Darwin's Origin of > Species and S. J. Gould's Ontogeny and Phylogeny. What is surprising > about Darwin is that he anticipated most of his critics and include > three chapters about problems with his ideas. He was quite critical of > himself. What makes this surprising is that his critics have not > really changed their arguments over the course of 100 years. I would like to add to this list: Steven Jay Gould's _Ever_Since_Darwin_. And for some of the things which Darwin didn't anticipate, but which fit very well into his theory (and which Darwin would have included had the evidence been known): R. Dawkins' _The_Selfish_Gene_ (A personal note: I covered the Arkansas Creationist trial for the Harvard Crimson in which Gould testified for the ACLU, and which ended with Judge William Overton striking down the state law requiring equal time for Creationism, and to this day, I can't understand how anyone could have any doubt that evolution occurs. But that's something for net.origins...) -- Craig Werner !philabs!aecom!werner "When I was your age, I did it for half an hour every day."
al@mot.UUCP (Al Filipski) (10/14/85)
<> I too recently read Darwin's Origin of Species and was also struck by the thoroughness of Darwin's coverage of opposing arguments. It was clear that he was not just playing the customary game of setting up straw-man arguments to knock down. He presented difficulties of the theory fairly and admitted when they were strong. Also, the sheer volume of evidence and examples of natural and sexual selection presented by Darwin was very impressive. He knew what his opposition would be and that he needed overwhelming factual support to have any hope of prevailing. One thing I was surprised to see was Darwin's open-mindedness toward Lamarckism, which was not yet refuted. Darwin said that certain races of men did not have facial hair, perhaps because, for many generations, the men plucked out any hair which did appear. NAMEDROP: I happened to meet Gerard Piel, publisher of Scientific American at the recent AAAS meeting in L.A., and this came up in conversation. He said "Oh Yes, and the amount of Lamarckism depends on which edition you read." Maybe it was edited out by revisionists? The "Origin of Species" still is one of the best explanations of Natural selection around. Reading that and something more modern about "punctuated equilibria" and "molecular clocks" would be a great education in evolutionary theory and in science in general. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alan Filipski, UNIX group, Motorola Microsystems, Tempe, AZ U.S.A {seismo|ihnp4}!ut-sally!oakhill!mot!al | ucbvax!arizona!asuvax!mot!al ------------------------------------------------------------------------
phillips@reed.UUCP (Patrick Phillips) (10/29/85)
>"Oh Yes, and the amount of Lamarckism depends on which edition you read." >Maybe it was edited out by revisionists? Actually, I think that the amount of Lamarckism increased with the editions. Darwin was apparently less secure with the importance of natural selection as time went along. (At least that's what Earnst Mayr says). -Patrick Phillips