CASAZZA@RU-GREEN.ARPA (05/16/85)
From: CASAZZA@RU-GREEN.ARPA I'd like some info on TSEDIT. What is the format of the disks which TSEDIT uses? Color Computer Disk BASIC format, OS-9, its own??? Also, if the lower case true lower case or just inverse video?? Finally, is it true it allows 80 column lines?? I've heard that the only way to get true lower case is by replacing chips in the CO/CO.... naturally the catalog doesn't say that by lower case it means inverse video. Thanks, CASAZZA @ GREEN -------
don@oakhill.UUCP (Don Weiss) (05/16/85)
[] TSEdit is a lot like Un*x's 'vi', at least the basic features thereof. Since I'm used to using vi, that makes TSEdit the most natural editor for me to use on the Coco, at least for straightforward text generation. TSEdit is actually sold as two disks: one is for the raw (I use the term intentionally) RadShack DOS, and the other for OS-9. Both for the single package price. Not bad--especially if, like me, you have some CoCos running OS-9 and others running RS DOS. TSEdit supports true lower case, at a variety of characters per line, all the way up to 85--that's not really readable, even on my Gorilla monitor, but it allows you to create/get a look at the form of the line to be printed. It creates the characters by going into the maximum resolution graphics mode and then painting the chars. black on white or black on green (another option). My only problem with it at present is that I've built up a file to just under 3500 characters, and now it gives me a warning about being out of memory space when I load that file to do more work on it. This occurs in the OS-9 version, which I have hacked (using SDISK) to run double-sided 40T drives. The folks in Fort Worth don't have any clues for me on this one yet; I really have to go back and set up the same conditions for TSEdit on a showroom-stock CoCo OS9 to see if it gives me the same problem. Anyway, enjoy!
mcdonald@sask.UUCP (Shane McDonald) (05/23/85)
[] Speaking of TS-Edit: > My only problem with it at present is that I've built up a file to just under > 3500 characters, and now it gives me a warning about being out of memory > space when I load that file to do more work on it. This occurs in the OS-9 > version, which I have hacked (using SDISK) to run double-sided 40T drives. > The folks in Fort Worth don't have any clues for me on this one yet; I > really have to go back and set up the same conditions for TSEdit on a > showroom-stock CoCo OS9 to see if it gives me the same problem. I had the same problem, but I solved it this weekend. When you start up TS-Edit, instead of typing tsedit filename try tsedit filename #25k or some other reasonable number. You'll get memory space about 25k. This seems to be about the maximum I can get on my system - it'll probably vary a little depending on what you've got loaded. By the way, I think TS-Edit is great! I'd recommend it to anyone. Shane McDonald (ihnp4!sask!mcdonald)
scott@uwvax.UUCP (Scott Aschenbach) (05/25/85)
> From: CASAZZA@RU-GREEN.ARPA > > > I'd like some info on TSEDIT. > > What is the format of the disks which TSEDIT uses? Color Computer > Disk BASIC format, OS-9, its own??? It comes with 2 versions of the program, one that runs under Disk BASIC and uses the Disk BASIC format, the other runs under OS-9 and uses the OS-9 format. > > Also, if the lower case true lower case or just inverse video?? Again, the amazing answer is both. It has many formats to choose from, two of which use the VDG character set (inverse video for lower case), and the rest draw characters of varying sizes in the high res graphics mode, from very large and readable to very small (barely readable on a monochrome monitor, but great for looking at how a page is laid out). > > Finally, is it true it allows 80 column lines?? Yes, you can 1. have lines that have 80 characters in them but actually wrap around on your display to be 2 or 3 lines 2. set the display to the very small characters (3 bits wide) and get the general idea of what's there 3. run in a mode that is a window into an 80 column reality (you look at 32 or 40 columns at a time, and shift the window left and right). > > I've heard that the only way to get true lower case is by replacing > chips in the CO/CO.... naturally the catalog doesn't say that by lower > case it means inverse video. I would say that running in the graphics mode is true lower case. There are programs available (see Rainbow or Hot Coco magazines) that patch BASIC to print by drawing the characters in a high res screen. Not a great answer, as this is slower, takes 6 K, and needs to be loaded each time your turn on or crash, but does make the display more readable. I have found that editing files with TSEDIT in this mode is this only time I really need to see true lower case. Scott -- W. Scott Aschenbach @ wisconsin ...!{allegra,heurikon,ihnp4,seismo,ucbvax,uwm-evax}!uwvax!scott scott@wisc-rsch.arpa