swd@ihlpf.UUCP (Dawson) (04/04/86)
*** A sacrifice to the line eater *** I have a Tandy 16B with 768K of memory and two floppy drives. Having worked on getting Xenix 3.0 running on floppy (and being somewhat successful) I have come to the conclusion that a hard drive would be much better (and lots easier!) Since Tandy wants ~$1200 for a 15meg drive and controller and ~$2500 for a 35meg and controller I am trying to find a cheaper way. I have seen the raw drives (like the ones you would put into a pc) in the 35meg range for ~$350. My question to the net is: Does anyone have information on a good low cost hard drive that will work with the machine I have? Or does anyone know of someone that has done something like this and is willing to talk about it? Please reply via email to ihnp4!inlpj!swd usmail steve dawson bell labs ih6n222 naperville il 60566 phone home 312-897-2835 phone work 312-979-4092 If there is a large response I will summarize and post the results. Thanks in advance. Steve Dawson
george2@chinet.UUCP (George slone) (04/05/86)
In article <393@ihlpf.UUCP> swd@ihlpf.UUCP (Dawson) writes: >*** A sacrifice to the line eater *** > >I have a Tandy 16B with 768K of memory and two floppy drives. Having worked >on getting Xenix 3.0 running on floppy (and being somewhat successful) I have >come to the conclusion that a hard drive would be much better (and lots easier!) > >Since Tandy wants ~$1200 for a 15meg drive and controller and ~$2500 for a 35meg >and controller I am trying to find a cheaper way. I have seen the raw drives >(like the ones you would put into a pc) in the 35meg range for ~$350. > >My question to the net is: Does anyone have information on a good low cost >hard drive that will work with the machine I have? Or does anyone know of >someone that has done something like this and is willing to talk about it? > >Please reply via email to ihnp4!inlpj!swd > usmail steve dawson bell labs ih6n222 naperville il 60566 > phone home 312-897-2835 > phone work 312-979-4092 >If there is a large response I will summarize and post the results. >Thanks in advance. >Steve Dawson I am also looking for such information on hard drives for my Tandy 6000 HD. I have a 15 meg on the system now but it just wont do the job, need more like 70 meg :-) By the way.. how many Tandy 6000's and 16(b) users are there out in net land.. I don't see talk about the 6000 and 16.. lets talk it up out there. George Slone ..!ihnp4!chinet!george2 \ !spudnik!gis1!root
jmturn@lmi-angel.UUCP (James Turner) (04/08/86)
In article <393@ihlpf.UUCP> swd@ihlpf.UUCP (Dawson) writes: >*** A sacrifice to the line eater *** > >I have a Tandy 16B with 768K of memory and two floppy drives. Having worked >on getting Xenix 3.0 running on floppy (and being somewhat successful) I have >come to the conclusion that a hard drive would be much better (and lots easier!) > >Since Tandy wants ~$1200 for a 15meg drive and controller and ~$2500 for a 35meg >and controller I am trying to find a cheaper way. I have seen the raw drives >(like the ones you would put into a pc) in the 35meg range for ~$350. > >My question to the net is: Does anyone have information on a good low cost >hard drive that will work with the machine I have? Or does anyone know of >someone that has done something like this and is willing to talk about it? In the words of the prophet, "You lose". I've owned a 16A for about a year now, and the only way I've ever been able to add more *Xenix compatible* drives is thru RS. There are companies that make TRSDOS compatible drives, up to 70 MB. If anyone ever wants to do an SMD controller for the 16/6000, I'll be the first on the block to buy one (and then buy a Fujitsu Eagle with the company discount...) -- James Helping Computers With Speech Impediments LISP Machine, Inc. {harvard|cca|mit-eddie}!lmi-angel!jmturn
markf@scicom.UUCP (Mark Felton) (04/09/86)
> >I have a Tandy 16B with 768K of memory and two floppy drives. Having worked > >on getting Xenix 3.0 running on floppy (and being somewhat successful) I have > >come to the conclusion that a hard drive would be much better (and lots easier!) > > > >Since Tandy wants ~$1200 for a 15meg drive and controller and ~$2500 for a 35meg > >and controller I am trying to find a cheaper way. I have seen the raw drives > >(like the ones you would put into a pc) in the 35meg range for ~$350. > > > >My question to the net is: Does anyone have information on a good low cost > >hard drive that will work with the machine I have? Or does anyone know of > >someone that has done something like this and is willing to talk about it? I have heard that Snapware carries a reasonably priced hard disk for the 16/6000. You should be able to get their number or address from a copy of US80 Magazine (on most computer newstands or in the library). They don't advertise it, but if you contact them, they should have information. You can't use lower cost ibm type drives because of the disc controller Radio Shack uses.
rab@rabtrs (Rich Bilancia) (04/12/86)
> In article <393@ihlpf.UUCP> swd@ihlpf.UUCP (Dawson) writes: > > > >My question to the net is: Does anyone have information on a good low cost > >hard drive that will work with the machine I have? Or does anyone know of > >someone that has done something like this and is willing to talk about it? > > > I am also looking for such information on hard drives for my Tandy 6000 > HD. I have a 15 meg on the system now but it > just wont do the job, need more like 70 meg :-) > I am running an original 16A upgraded to a 6000 with a 70 meg primary (converted from a 15 meg simply by replacing the drive with a Micropolis 1325 - the same drive used by Tandy). A friend simply unpluged the cables and plugged in the new drive. For the more faint of heart, Bob Snapp in Cincinnati at (513) 891-4496, is an excellent second source for 16 & 6000 parts. Rich Bilancia ...!hao!udenva!bilanc!rab voice:(303) 973-4035
cc1@ucla-cs.ARPA (Michael Gersten) (04/15/86)
I also have a 16(A), and have been trying to get information about getting a good, big, cheap secondary. So far, I've gotten one person who tells me that all secondaries are compatible, but software supports assures me that their lowcost drives won't work. So, I wait... Michael Gersten -- Views expressed here may not be those of the Computer Club, UCLA, or anyone.
mc68020@gilbbs.UUCP (Tom Keller) (04/16/86)
In article <19@lmi-angel.UUCP>, jmturn@lmi-angel.UUCP (James Turner) writes: > > In the words of the prophet, "You lose". I've owned a 16A for about a year > now, and the only way I've ever been able to add more *Xenix compatible* > drives is thru RS. There are companies that make TRSDOS compatible drives, > up to 70 MB. If anyone ever wants to do an SMD controller for the 16/6000, I'll > be the first on the block to buy one (and then buy a Fujitsu Eagle with the > company discount...) This is fundamentally incorrect. I have placed several non-Tandy supplied hard disks on 16As, 16Bs, and 6000s. All you need is a standard ST-506 type interface drive, the cables, and a little time. It is a good idea to get drives with a reasonably fast step rate (preferably what is referred to as a "compiled seek"). The smaller dirves (5, 12 and 15 Meg) Tandy supplied were all Tandon drives. the 12 is a Tandon model 603SE. I also have a Tandon 503S running on my 16A upgraded to a 6000. -- Disclaimer: I hereby disclaim any and all responsibility for disclaimers. tom keller {ihnp4, dual}!ptsfa!gilbbs!mc68020 (* we may not be big, but we're small! *)
dab@myrias.UUCP (Danny Boulet) (04/17/86)
My machine started life as a model 16B with a 12 meg external primary drive. I've upgraded it to be a Tandy 6000. Last night, I opened up the hard drive enclosure and discovered that the 12 meg drive is a "Tandon 603-SE". I checked with a local Tandon supplier. His catalogs don't list this drive. They do list a "Tandon 703". Can anyone tell me if I can replace my 603 with this 703? Alternatively, can anyone tell me how I can find out if the 703 will work?
bob@hasmed.UUCP (Bob Hamilton) (04/17/86)
I am running 4 model 6000's and have 70 55 33 meg drives running on my machines. If you are interested in some larger drives let me know. The 6000 with 3.1.1 seems to be running quite well and have one machine running 9 users. Has any one had any luck with micnet? I would be interested in knowing how it works. I run a uucp net with 5 machines all connected together.
peralta@ci-dandelion.UUCP (Rick Peralta) (04/17/86)
In article <10885@ucla-cs.ARPA> occ4mgk@oac.ucla.edu.ARPA, cc1@ucla-cs.UUCP (Michael Gersten) writes: >I also have a ... >... cheap secondary... The controller and assorted hardware needed to set up a Tandy compatible drive can be scrounged from a low cost drive (like the 5meg) and used for BIGGER purposes. I have changed several drives around and had few problems. If you want the "latest" in controllers, buy them from national parts and mount them in whatever you like. Besure to scrounge all of the hardware you can before you order. Also, get friendly with the local RSCC or repair, they can let you have all kinds of "disco" stuff for reasonable money. If anyone is intrested in a trade, I have not been able to find good, fast, large bubbles (35+meg drives) for reasonable money. If anyone has a resource and needs the other half, I think we can make a deal. Rick ...!{harvard|mit-eddie|frog}!cybvax0!dmc0!rr
pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) (04/29/86)
In article <136@hasmed.UUCP> bob@hasmed.UUCP (Bob Hamilton) writes: > >I am running 4 model 6000's and have 70 55 33 meg drives >running on my machines. If you are interested in some larger >drives let me know. The 6000 with 3.1.1 seems to be running >quite well and have one machine running 9 users. > >Has any one had any luck with micnet? I would be interested >in knowing how it works. I run a uucp net with 5 machines >all connected together. We are running 2.10.3 B on this tandy16 upgraded to a model 6000 with a meg of mem and the primary hard drive upgraded from a 12 meg to a micropolis 70meg for about 1900$. The hard disk plugged in using the existing cables and only a jumper resistor on the old 12 meg controller board was needed for modification, except that the "green active light" was disconnected from the board and instead was tied to the power supply. The software has been helped by hacking uucp and mail on the system and compiling a number of net sources utilities. The compiler is terrific and I have seen jove and numerous other nifty utilities work on the 6000. I haven't used micnet, but I've heard it isn't much, especially when compared to 2.10.3 B. I understand most of the Tandy Usenet Site machines use Notes (NF). +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II, Ltd.; College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | {umcp-cs | seismo}!prometheus!pmk; pmk@prometheus.UUCP | decade | +---------------------------------------------------------+--------+