[net.games.go] Todd Kaufmann asked about people playing go by machine

osman@sprite.DEC (Eric, dtn 283-7484, Burlington Ma.) (04/10/85)

I indeed have been playing several games by machine.  My experience is
that they start out fine, and then when they get complicated, I find I
really need to see them on a real go board.

This is because the crude terminal graphics leaves alot to be desired.

Here's an example of what we pass back and forth when we play:
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RECORD OF MOVES  Black (#), Eric - White (O), Lou

1. b d4		4-4 point
2. w c6		approach rather than take another corner

   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S
1  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
2  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
3  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
4  .  .  .  #  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  .
5  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
6  .  .  O  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . Use "KO" next to
7  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . one that was just
8  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . taken.
9  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
10 .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  . 
11 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . W captured: 0 stones
12 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
13 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . B captured: 0 stones
14 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
15 .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
16 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  . 
17 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
18 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
19 .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 
   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S

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I'm on a Digital VT241 color scope, so fancier graphics are certainly
possible.  Perhaps someone could write some software that takes the "mail
board" as illustrated above, fancies it up to display a nice go board,
allows the move to be typed in, then uglifies it again and sends it back
on the mail system !

Hey, while I've got your attention, here's a go problem.  Remember, in order to
"not cheat" you ought to think about the opponent's best responses to your
candidate move, rather than "trying things" on the go board.  This
discipline gives real-game environment practice, since of course in a
real game you can't put down stones and try things.

   A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S
1  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
2  .  .  O  #  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . black = #
3  .  .  #  O  #  #  .  #  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . white = O
4  .  O  #  O  O  #  .  .  .  +  .  .  .  .  .  +  .  .  .
5  .  O  O  O  #  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
6  .  #  #  #  #  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .Black to play.
7  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .What's the BEST move ?

/Eric Osman, Waltham Ma. (1 kyu)