[net.nlang.celts] Bleeding IRA Terrorists

jca@abnji.UUCP (james armstrong) (01/03/85)

How many of you really know what the IRA stands for?  Which IRA are you refer-
ing to?

The British Army was originally sent to Northern Ireland to defend the
Catholic minority from Protestant violence!  There was a group of the
Catholic population which resented that.  (I don't know why, maybe they
had a martyr complex.)  They were propbably provoking the Protestant 
violence.

The most active group of Irish "Nationalists" is the INLA (Irish National
Liberation Army).  They support the overthrow of British rule in
Northern Ireland, THEN the overthrow of the democratically elected
government in the Republic of Ireland, and the replacement of that 
government with a vanguard of socialism to build Ireland into a Democratic
Socialist Republic, along the lines of East Germany.

If you want that, go give your money to Noraid.

jack@vu44.UUCP (Jack Jansen) (01/11/85)

> From: jca@abnji.UUCP (james armstrong)
> How many of you really know what the IRA stands for?  Which IRA are you refer-
> ing to?
The name 'IRA' has been in use even before the Republic of Ireland
was freed. It has *always* denoted the people who fought for
a free Ireland (ALL of it!).
> 
> The British Army was originally sent to Northern Ireland to defend the
> Catholic minority from Protestant violence!  
Nope. The British army was sent to Ireland a hundred years or so
ago, since the Irish were sick and tired of being denied even the
simplest of human rights by the english oppressors.
> There was a group of the
> Catholic population which resented that.  (I don't know why, maybe they
> had a martyr complex.)  
I won't comment on this phrase, lest I should use some *very*
unpolite language.
> They were propbably provoking the Protestant 
> violence.
Okay, so now I come over to your country. I kick you out of your house.
I deport your children to Australia to forced-labour camps.
I force you to work for me, and have you pay taxes that are higher than
your income. I deny you the right to use your own language.
I burn your churches, kill your priests, and forbid you to practice
your religion. I deny you the right to be educated.
AND DON'T YOU DARE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL PROVOKE MY
VIOLENCE!!!!!!
Or, to stay with the current Northern Irish situation (which you were
probably referring to) :
Have you ever noticed that it is the only place in the so-called free world
where you are guilty until you can prove yourself innocent?
Or the fact that the Irish have <=20% of the members of parliament,
while being >=40% of the population?
> 
> The most active group of Irish "Nationalists" is the INLA (Irish National
> Liberation Army).  They support the overthrow of British rule in
> Northern Ireland, 
Great. Only please replace "rule" by "oppression".
> THEN the overthrow of the democratically elected
> government in the Republic of Ireland, and the replacement of that 
> government with a vanguard of socialism to build Ireland into a Democratic
> Socialist Republic, along the lines of East Germany.
Well, this is new to me. How do you know this? Have you got any contacts
in the INLA? Are you a seer?

(Disclaimer: I do *not* support the more militant wings of the IRA,
like the INLA, but if someone shows a complete lack of factual
knowledge of the present and past and starts shouting like this
I tend to get *VERY* angry (must be my Irish blood :-))
-- 
	Jack Jansen, {seismo|philabs|decvax}!mcvax!vu44!jack
	or				       ...!vu44!htsa!jack
If *this* is my opinion, I wasn't sober at the time.