rs55611@ihuxk.UUCP (Robert E. Schleicher) (02/20/84)
While watching the Hand of Fear episode last night (with Tom Baker and Sarah Jane Smith), I started wondering about the different interior style of the Tardis in that episode (wood paneling look, with something that looks like stained glass in places, and a generally a tan, wooded color scheme). Can anyone tell me how long the Tardis was like that (what seasons, episodes, etc), and what was the explanation given (if any) for the Tardis interior "remodeling"? In thinking about it I realized that my mind was a blank on the Tardis looking different from its usual high-tech look. (The only unusual thing I remember is when Pertwee had the Tardis main console out of the Tardis police box in a garage, when he was having trouble with it.) Can anyone shed any light on this? Bob Schleicher ihuxk!rs55611 AT&T Bell Laboratories
alle@ihuxb.UUCP (Allen England) (02/21/84)
What you saw was the "other" control room in the Tardis. In the previous episode, "The Mask of Mandragora", the Dr. decided to try out the other control room with the result of ending up in renaissance Italy. As the Dr. put it, "Now I remember why I quit using this control room" (or something like that). Allen England at AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihuxb!alle
france@unc.UUCP (Robert France) (02/21/84)
The TARDIS interior has gone through some changes over the years, although nothing compared to the massive reorganizations of the Master's TARDIS (note: if the Doctor gets his chameleon circuit fixed, how are we ever going to tell the two capsules apart?). In one episode, I believe it was the one in which the Doctor and Sarah ended up battling a clump of helix energy in Fourteenth- Century Italy, the Doctor was leading Sarah through the TARDIS when they came to the wood-paneled console room, all dim and with sheets thrown over everything. The Doctor said something to the effect of "Oh, look! Here's the old console room. I wonder if it still works?" Not only did it still work, but the exit was still connected to the same exit as the main console room (which was in use both before the wood-paneled console room, during the Pertwee days, and, with modifications, up through Davidson). How's that for transdimensional engineering? Quid Gonzo in Parvum, Robert France decvax!mcnc!unc!france france@unc ...where they show the Doctor 7 times a week.
cmaz504@ut-ngp.UUCP (Steve Alexander) (02/21/84)
The Tardis interior does occasionaly change back to what it looked like in earlier episodes and for the earlier Doctors. I suppose one could imagine that the Doctor longs for the rememberance of things past but I suspect that the BBC just likes to haul the stuff out of storage every now and then. As for Perwee working on the guts of the Tardis you have to remember that during Patrick Trouton's last show the Time Lords stranded him on Earth by breaking his Tardis (actually the BBC ran out of money and wanted to avoid the exotic (and costly) stories). After one show where he keeps the Master from destroying the universe again they give him the piece he needs to fix it. I'm still trying to figure out which actor played the President (nee Cardinal) in the Five Doctors. Doesn't anyone know?
wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) (02/24/84)
As to the time that "old-Control Room" was used, I would say from the
Troughton Doctor, due to the recorder being found by Sarah in the Mask
of Mandagora.
Interesting point to make is that the original TARDIS interior seemed
to be one room with big switches and wire strung, and I don't
understand how the Hartnell Doctor and Grandaughter where able to live
in their.
Walt Pesch
AT&T Technologies
ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpeschavsdT:deborah@avsdS.UUCP (02/25/84)
The different TARDIS interior in 'The Hand of Fear' was actually just a different control room, in another part of the TARDIS. I don't actually recall why they moved down there, but that episode will show soon here, and I'll remember to look in on it. -another Eldrad hater, -deborah gronke bennett fortune!dsd!t:deborah ucbvax!atd!t:deborah
avsdT:deborah@avsdS.UUCP (02/25/84)
The wood-paneled TARDIS control room in 'The Hand of Fear' was in fact another control room elsewhere in the TARDIS. I unfortunately do not remember why the Doctor moved himself to that control room. They did not stay in the auxiliary control room for many episodes. 'Eldrad must Live!' -deborah gronke bennett ucbvax!atd!t:deborah fortune!dsd!t:deborah
lipman@decwrl.UUCP (02/26/84)
From: mother::hughes (Gary Hughes - CSSE uVAX & AI Systems Group)
The 'old' control room (the wood panelled one) had not been seen in any of
the earlier series (which makes the appearance of the recorder somewhat
confusing).
In the very early series the Tardis was always considered to have more
rooms than the control room. Sets for the living quarters were used quite
frequently in the first two series. For a long time the emphasis shifted
away from the Tardis (and time travel itself) itself and more towards the
various locations it took them to.
The earlier series implied that the console itself was the heart of the
Tardis and not merely a control panel. Several times, is mentioned that the
time rotor (the cylinder in the middle of the console) is the drive
mechanism of the Tardis.
In one story (The Meddling Monk) the Doctor removes the dimensional
stabiliser from the console of another Tardis (the monk's) causing it to
become the same size on the inside as it was on the outside (small in this
case!).
Re my comments about hula hoops, princess telephones etc being sold as
'scale model Tardis' and the reply about full size models...one of the
functions of the above mentioned dimensional stabiliser was to match the
'size' of the Tardis and its inhabitants to that of the outside environment
(mentioned in another old Hartnell story (Planet of the Giants ?) where a
Tardis malfunction brings them to earth (circa 1965) but far too small). It
would have to be alrge princess telephone to qulaify as a full scale model.
Gary Hughes
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The particular TARDIS interior in 'The Hand of Fear' was actually a second control room elsewhere in the TARDIS. I believe it was actually and older control room, mostly not used now. -deborah gronke bennett fortune!dsd!t:deborah ucbvax!atd!t:deborah
avsdT:deborah@avsdS.UUCP (02/27/84)
The wood-paneled TARDIS control room in 'The Hand of Fear' was in fact another control room elsewhere in the TARDIS. I unfortunately do not remember why the Doctor moved himself to that control room. They did not stay in the auxiliary control room for many episodes. 'Eldrad must Live!' -deborah gronke bennett ucbvax!atd!t:deborah fortune!dsd!t:deborah p.s. sorry if this has been seen already, there was a problem with posting to this newsgroup at my site.
msc@qubix.UUCP (Mark Callow) (02/28/84)
The wood panelled interior set was the TARDIS' alternate control room.
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