argo@hou2a.UUCP (W.GARRETT) (02/17/84)
I just recently saw the Tom Baker episode, The Brain of Morbius, and I have a question. When the doctor and Morbius were having their little mental chess game, or whatever it was called, several faces appeared. The first four I recognized as the odctor back to Hartnell. After that many other faces appeared. Were these previous incarnations of the doctor, before he left Gallifrey, or were these Morbius' incarnations? Also, who exactly won that little contest? Contact Has Been Made, Andrew Garrett
shz@hlexa.UUCP (Sally Handy-Zarnstorff) (02/23/84)
After seeing Brain of Morbius for the 3rd time, I concluded that
the faces pictured during the mind-bending contest were indeed
supposed to represent the Doctor at various stages. This clearly
contradicts the well known fact that the doctor has had only 5 (now
6) generations, so maybe it was a slip on the part of the writer
(like putting the food-vendors in the transporter room in Startrek).
Morbius was winning the contest (as his gloating suggested), but,
as the Doctor planned, the excessive mental activity caused a buildup
of static electricity in Morbius's brain-case and forced Morbius to
withdraw from the contest. The sudden release of his brain-lock
left the Doctor unconscious.
--Sally Handy-Zarnstorff
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Short Hills, NJ
..!ihnp4!hlexa!shzgayde@iwu1b.UUCP (Peter Gayde) (02/23/84)
A story from the 20th season of Dr. Who makes me believe that the
unknown faces seen in the mind-bending contest were Morbius' early
incarnations and NOT the Doctor's. In "Mawdryn Undead", the Doctor is
confronted with the possibility of losing his "8 remaining regenerations"
(Davison being the 4th regeneration) to save 8 men from living forever
(hence "Mawdryn UNDEAD"). It is a well known fact that the Doctor is
allowed 12 regenerations (i.e., 13 separate incarnations).
The only way I can see that the faces could be the Doctor's is if
he were granted some extra regenerations we don't know about.
--
Lemon Curry???
Peter Gayde ihnp4!{iwu1b,ihuxp}!gayde
AT&T Technologies
Naperville, IL
(312) 979-7186wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) (02/24/84)
You miss the point that Morbius was also a Time lord, and as such, had
previous regenerations. The unknown faces were those of Morbius'
earlier regenerations.
The theory I have about the contest is that through force of will, one
participant forces the other back through time to his beginnings.
That is why they went backwards chronologically. The way that it can
kill is through pushing the other back to start (birth) (conception)
to where the other does not live, and therefor doesn't.
Walt Pesch
AT&T Technologies
ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpeschjim@randvax.ARPA (Jim Gillogly) (03/11/84)
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This episode was on yesterday in L.A. It seemed to me that of the
12 faces that appeared between Morbius and the Doctor, 5 were aimed
from the Doctor towards Morbius (about 3/4 face), of which the first
was Tom Baker; and 7 were aimed from Morbius towards the Doctor. I
hypothesize that we were seeing the past faces of both, not one or
the other.
Jim {decvax, vortex}!randvax!jim