[net.tv.drwho] The Daleks

ckuppe@spock.UUCP (Charles A. Kupperman '87 ) (06/02/85)

I was thinking about the Daleks the other day, for no good reason.  They
really are the perfect adversary for the Doctor, and that I think is the
reason for their success.  They are not simply logical like the cybermen
or brutal like the Sontarans, but they have a great cunning and
intelligence.   Also, they bring out the best qualities in each Doctor.

In the first Doctor, they brought out his own cunning and wit.  More
than any other adversary, the first Doctor was continuously battling
with all of his wits against the daleks.  The best example would be
Dalek Invasion of Earth.  The Daleks lock him in a cell.  He figures out
the fantastically complex locking mechanism and escapes, but it turns
out to be a Dalek trap.  The best thing was the uncertainty that he
would win.  He was occasionally ruthless (e.g., the time destructor) and
in the end it was only the Doctor's caring for his companions that
seperated him from the Daleks.  Both were logical and cunning.  (The
first Doctor would never "abandon methodical procedure for blind instinct.")

The second Doctor was immediately thrown into conflict with the Daleks
in "Power of the Daleks," and in him they brought out his wayward
humor, as well as his great humanity.  He was not nearly as clever in
battling them as Hartnell, and "Power of the Daleks" was quite a
different dalek adventure from the others.  If "Power" brought out his
humor, "Evil of the Daleks" brought out his great humanity and kindness.
This culminated in the great confrontation scene between him and the
Emperor Dalek.  The irony was that he was human (The Daleks tricked him
into nearly enslaving all of mankind) but when they tried their new
process on him it didn't work-  He wasn't human.

The third Doctor showed his great moral strength against the daleks.  He
had numerous speeches in "Day of the Daleks" which exposed his attitude
to the daleks, enslaving mankind ruthlessly.  He never seemed to
directly confront the daleks, but in his conversations with humans, he
demonstrated himself as the antithesis of everything "daleky" (Terrance
Dicks' word, not mine.)

The fourth Doctor, of all the Doctors, was the least well opposed with
the daleks.  "Genesis of the Daleks" was close to the moralisation of the
Pertwee stories, and "Destiny of the Daleks" was simply humerous.  If
anything could be said to be exposed in the Doctor in these two stories,
it is his great color- In his scarf he offsets the grey daleks trundling
around, and he is mobile as opposed to their impotence in climbing a
rope.  He demonstrates the great creative energy of mankind against the
grey "bureaucracy" of the daleks.

The fifth Doctor's most noticeable trait, some have said, was his
persistent yet hesitant optimism.  This was what he showed best with the
daleks.  While the cybermen were too monolithic for the Doctor to really
oppose well, the daleks are used to good discussions, as is Davros.  He
fights them with optimistic lines such as, "You know, without the threat
of death, you're quite useless," and when Davros says to him, "The
universe is at war, Doctor.  It is the only reality."  He says sternly,
"Which I do not accept."

The sixth Doctor, ranged against the grey pepperpots of evil, will
probably demonstrate his love of self and of expressing that self.  I
can picture him facing the all pervading daleks, constantly vying for
attention.  He could easily upstage the daleks in any scene.  I've only
seen Twin Dilemma at a convention, so I can't really say what his
dominant outlook on life is.  But I would say that he would not be
inconsistent with something like Walt Whitman's, "Song of Myself." Not
egotistical, just daring to be more than yourself.  And it is this that
he ought to show against the daleks.

Charles Kupperman,
"You know, Doctor, sometimes you amaze me."
"Only sometimes?" -Dalek Invasion of Earth.
"I am not a student of human nature.  I am a professor of a far wider
academy of which human nature is only a part." - Evil of the Daleks.
"Is it madness to want to see a world free from their rule?" - Day of
the Daleks.
"If you're supposed to be the superior life form in the universe, why
don't you try climbing after me?" - Destiny of the Daleks.
"Davros, before I came in here, I mistakenly hoped you might have
changed enough not for me to have to do this." - Resurrection of the Daleks.

smith@ncoast.UUCP (Phil Smith) (02/23/86)

Our local PBS station just showed The Daleks from the first season.
The opening credits listed the epsisode as "The Dead Planet", not
"The Daleks". Can anyone explain this, it contradicts all the published
information on the names of the epsisodes.

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nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (02/26/86)

Back in the days of William Hartnell, each episode had a separate
title.  This continues up to "The Gunfighters".  The first episode
of the story later named "The Daleks" was "The Dead Planet".
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ins_akaa@jhunix.UUCP (Ken Arromdee) (02/26/86)

In article <1032@ncoast.UUCP> smith@ncoast.UUCP (Phil Smith) writes:
>Our local PBS station just showed The Daleks from the first season.
>The opening credits listed the epsisode as "The Dead Planet", not
>"The Daleks". Can anyone explain this, it contradicts all the published
>information on the names of the epsisodes.

From the first episode (An Unearthly Child) until The Gunfighters, each
part of the multi-part stories had a separate name.  The first part of
The Daleks was called "The Dead Planet".  When the parts were combined to
produce a feature-length story for the US (, etc...), the name at the beginning
of the first part was left in.  For An Unearthly Child, this happens to be the
name of the full story, but for The Daleks it isn't.
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ins_ajpo@jhunix.UUCP (Adric of Alzarius) (02/26/86)

> Our local PBS station just showed The Daleks from the first season.
> The opening credits listed the epsisode as "The Dead Planet", not
> "The Daleks". Can anyone explain this, it contradicts all the published
> information on the names of the epsisodes.

"The Dead Planet" is the title of part 1 of "The Daleks."  In the beginning,
the Dr.Who episodes had individual titles.  If you look in the Program Guide,
Vol. 1, it lists the individual titles.  This stopped near the end of the
third season.  The story, if I remember correctly is "The Gunfighters."
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brown@nicmad.UUCP (02/27/86)

In article <1032@ncoast.UUCP> smith@ncoast.UUCP (Phil Smith) writes:
>Our local PBS station just showed The Daleks from the first season.
>The opening credits listed the epsisode as "The Dead Planet", not
>"The Daleks". Can anyone explain this, it contradicts all the published
>information on the names of the epsisodes.

All of the stories from the first one "An Unearthly Child" (BBC story code A)
through the 25th story, "The Gunfighters" (BBC story code Z), all had titles
for the episodes.

The published information DOES talk about this fact.  I have posted a Program
Guide, in the past, that has the story title as well as the epsiode titles.
It is available upon request.
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wheel@utastro.UUCP (Craig Wheeler) (02/28/86)

In article <1032@ncoast.UUCP>, smith@ncoast.UUCP (Phil Smith) writes:
> Our local PBS station just showed The Daleks from the first season.
> The opening credits listed the epsisode as "The Dead Planet", not
> "The Daleks". Can anyone explain this, it contradicts all the published
> information on the names of the epsisodes.
>

The reason why is that in the first few seasons all of the shows had
individual names, and not just "daleks part 1", "daleks part 2", etc. 

And so the first title of the Daleks episodes was "The Dead Planet" 
Following that are titles such as "The Danger" "The Rescue" "The Escape"
"The Ordeal"...

I hope this is straightened out now.

The station here is currently in the Hartnells as well, and we are in the
middle of "The Romans".   I'm waiting for the switch to Troughton, tho I
suspect that the first regeneration to be an anti-climax.

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percus@acf4.UUCP (Allon G. Percus) (03/03/86)

> The station here is currently in the Hartnells as well, and we are in the
> middle of "The Romans".   I'm waiting for the switch to Troughton, tho I
> suspect that the first regeneration to be an anti-climax.

It will definitely be an anticlimax, as I doubt you will see it.
Most of the last episode of "The Tenth Planet," the last Hartnell
story, is missing (although the regeneration part DOES exist), so
the BBC doesn't seem to be packaging Tenth Planet in with the others.

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