ccalille@ihlpf.UUCP (Calille) (02/07/86)
I think that Michigan will win the Big Ten and the NCAA this year. Roy Tarpley is probably the best center to come out of the nation this year. He definitely should win the Big Ten MVP as well as the NCAA MVP. Their guards (Antioine "The Judge" Joubert and Gary "General" Grant) are considered the best guard tandem in the country. Michigan would be undefeated if they had a coach who knows how to coach superstars. I will give Bill Frieder credit for recruiting top players but he has to learn how to coach these players. I think that Michigan has now started a dynasty even though they are losing three starting players because Michigan has already recruited two of the top three high school players for next year according to Street and Smith. Did you know that Michigan has six Mr. Basketballs on their team and they still lost two games (they should be No. 1 and undefeated). I bet that Michigan will finish in the top three in the country and win the NCAA championship. Michigan would have won the championship last year if there was a shot clock (Villanova would have never got by Michigan if there was a shot clock.) Chris Calille ..ihlpf!ccalille P.S. MICHIGAN WILL BEAT ILLINOIS THIS WEEK BY AT LEAST 10 POINTS Predictions: Michigan 85 Purdue 75 Michigan 75 Illinois 60
foz@ihlpf.UUCP (Thompson) (02/07/86)
> > I think that Michigan will win the Big Ten and the NCAA this year. Roy > Tarpley is probably the best center to come out of the nation this year. > He definitely should win the Big Ten MVP as well as the NCAA MVP. Their > guards (Antioine "The Judge" Joubert and Gary "General" Grant) are hey calille - learn how to spell "Antoine"! > considered the best guard tandem in the country. Michigan would be > undefeated if they had a coach who knows how to coach superstars. I will > give Bill Frieder credit for recruiting top players but he has to learn > how to coach these players. I think that Michigan has now started a > dynasty even though they are losing three starting players because > Michigan has already recruited two of the top three high school players > for next year according to Street and Smith. > Did you know that Michigan has six Mr. Basketballs on their team and > they still lost two games (they should be No. 1 and undefeated). I bet > that Michigan will finish in the top three in the country and win the > NCAA championship. Michigan would have won the championship last year > if there was a shot clock (Villanova would have never got by Michigan if > there was a shot clock.) > Chris Calille > ..ihlpf!ccalille > > P.S. MICHIGAN WILL BEAT ILLINOIS THIS WEEK BY AT LEAST 10 POINTS > Predictions: > Michigan 85 Purdue 75 > Michigan 75 Illinois 60 > well you were close on the first game: actual score was UM 80 Purdue 79 it sounds to me like you are a michigan alumnus (impartiality?) anyway michigan has a good team but probably not good enough to win the ncaa's (north carolina will beat UM in the final).
srt@ucla-cs.UUCP (02/09/86)
In article <311@ihlpf.UUCP> ccalille@ihlpf.UUCP (Chris Calille) writes: > >P.S. MICHIGAN WILL BEAT ILLINOIS THIS WEEK BY AT LEAST 10 POINTS >Predictions: > Michigan 75 Illinois 60 Sorry, Chris. Michigan lost to Illinois in overtime. -- Scott Turner PS: What happened to the computer picks?
ylee@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (02/09/86)
>> Chris Calille >> ..ihlpf!ccalille >> >> P.S. MICHIGAN WILL BEAT ILLINOIS THIS WEEK BY AT LEAST 10 POINTS >> Predictions: >> Michigan 85 Purdue 75 >> Michigan 75 Illinois 60 > >well you were close on the first game: actual score was UM 80 Purdue 79 But deadly wrong on the second one: FINAL: Illinois 83, Michigan 79 (OT) Michigan may be a good team, but they sometimes play poorly. They lost TWO previous games by a total of 22 points, whereas Illinois lost SEVEN previous games by a total of 21 points. In tournament play, a consistent (and good) team maybe outplayed by an average team with exceptional performance (we have all seen that at last year's ncaa final), but an inconsistent team certainly has more chance of being eliminated at any time. Illinois is struggling for the ncaa berth now, but if they get in, I'll bet that they will go farther than Michigan does. They have some real talented players, but unfortunately the incompetence of their head coach keeps them from winning those close games. Yuhjeng Lee ylee@uiuc
kenf@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (02/09/86)
> Chris Calille > ..ihlpf!ccalille > > P.S. MICHIGAN WILL BEAT ILLINOIS THIS WEEK BY AT LEAST 10 POINTS > Predictions: > Michigan 85 Purdue 75 > Michigan 75 Illinois 60 > Well Chris, don't you feel silly? The best team doesn't always win, especially on the road in the BIG 10. Any BIG 10 victory is nice but it is really gratifying when the FIGHTING ILLINI can send michigan slinking back to ann arbor on the wolverine they rode in on ( being on national TV didn't hurt my feelings either). Good luck in the NCAA but remember wolverines are NOT welcome in Champaign-Urbana !! OSKEE WOW WOW ken fortenberry UUCP: {ihnp4,pur-ee,convex}!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!kenf Computing Services Office 1304 W. Springield Urbana, Illinois
ccalille@ihlpf.UUCP (Calille) (02/11/86)
> Michigan may be a good team, but they sometimes play poorly. They lost TWO > previous games by a total of 22 points, whereas Illinois lost SEVEN previous > games by a total of 21 points. In tournament play, a consistent (and good) > team maybe outplayed by an average team with exceptional performance (we > have all seen that at last year's ncaa final), but an inconsistent team > certainly has more chance of being eliminated at any time. Illinois is > struggling for the ncaa berth now, but if they get in, I'll bet that they > will go farther than Michigan does. They have some real talented players, > but unfortunately the incompetence of their head coach keeps them from > winning those close games. > > Yuhjeng Lee > ylee@uiuc Even though Illinois barely beat Michigan, I think Michigan will win the rest of their Big Ten games since 5 of the last 7 games are at home. Michigan has not lost at home this year and the two remaining games are against Northwestern (who don't deserve to be in the Big Ten but the only reason they are in the (who don't belong in the Big Ten but the only reason why the are in the Big Ten is because the rest of the teams need an easy opponent to play on their schedule) and Wisconsin. Therefore, Michigan will win the Big Ten and get a high seed in one of the regionals and definitely will go much farther in the NCAA and will probably win it all. Michigan is in a slight slump right now but they will get out of their slump before the NCAA tournament starts. So watch out for those Wolverines as they will be awesome in the tournament. Michigan starting five (Antoine Joubert, Gary Grant, Richard Rellford, Butch Wade, and Roy Tarpley) can not be matched by any other starting five college team. See you in Dallas while you Illinois fans will be watching the game on TV. ..ihlpf!ccalille Chris Calille P.S Illinois probably won't make it into the NCAA and will have to settle for an NIT bid since I bet they will lose at least four more games. With this many losses the NCAA will not take Illinois into the tournament.
nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (02/11/86)
Michigan has the best guard tandem in the country??? Michigan will beat Illinois??? NCAA Final: Duke 88 UNC 82 -- James C. Armstrong, Jnr. {ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa "But Doctor, we're on that island!" "Oh my word!" who said them, what story?
foz@ihlpf.UUCP (Thompson) (02/12/86)
> Michigan has the best guard tandem in the country??? > > Michigan will beat Illinois??? > > NCAA Final: Duke 88 UNC 82 > -- > James C. Armstrong, Jnr. {ihnp4,cbosgd,akgua}!abnji!nyssa > > "But Doctor, we're on that island!" > "Oh my word!" who said them, what story? You apparently have not been following Michigan basketball at all. There is no doubt that Michigan has THE BEST guard tandem in the country, consisting of 6'3" sophomore Gary Grant and 6'5" junior Antoine Joubert. See, UM plays "Street" ball, unlike the teams in the ACC or other divisions, who play "wimpy" basketball. In the Big Ten you have to be aggressive in order to survive, and UM certainly is. These two guards are every coaches dream. I have been following UM basketball for about ten years and I have never seen a tandem like those two. When the game is tight these two love to get their hands on the ball because they know that they are good enough to handle it and they always have. They are THE BEST!!! Michigan has the best team in the country: 6'11" Roy Tarpley (Street and Smith's Player of the Year) 6'8" Butch Wade 6'6" Richard Rellford 6'5" Antoine Joubert 6'3" Gary Grant Subs: 6'9" Robert Henderson 6'1" Garde Thompson 6'7" Glen Rice 6'8" Mark Hughes 6'3" Billy Butts 6'9" Loy Vaught 6'11" J. P. Oosterbaan 6'6" Mike Griffin 6'2" Ron Gibas 6'9" Steve Stoyko (Offensive Hustler of the Year?) UM's subs would be starters on any other Division I team in the country! They are so good that it will be no surprise that on a warm spring night in April UM emerges as NCAA Champions!!! ihlpf!foz Bill Thompson
ylee@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (02/13/86)
> ... 6'3" sophomore Gary Grant and 6'5" junior Antoine Joubert. > ... When the game is tight these two love > to get their hands on the ball because they know that they are good enough to > handle it and they always have. They are THE BEST!!! In their two games against Illinois, Bruce Douglas alone stole the ball from these two guys 13 times. Other guards of Illinois also had 5 or 6 steals. So ... > UM's subs would be starters on any other Division I team in the country! Gee, Bill Frieder must have played his cheer leaders, otherwise how come a team of this kind of caliber would lose to Minnesota and Michigan State by >10 points? Yuhjeng Lee ylee@uiuc
bch@mcnc.UUCP (02/16/86)
In article <319@ihlpf.UUCP> foz@ihlpf.UUCP (Thompson) writes: > >You apparently have not been following Michigan basketball at all. There >is no doubt that Michigan has THE BEST guard tandem in the country, What reasoning (beyond general emotionality) do you have for believing this? I've watched Michigan play on several occasions and while Grant and Joubert are good, they have an annoying habit of disappearing for long stretches. There are several guard tandems that are as good or better (but perhaps not with the fancy nicknames:) Duke: Amaker and Dawkins Ga. Tech: Price and Dalrymple UNC: K. Smith and Hale ...but let's get real. It takes more of a backcourt that two to win a conference title much less a national championship. You can't have both those guys on the court for 40 minutes. Things get pretty wretched at old UM when you get beyond the first two. >See, UM plays "Street" ball, unlike the teams in the ACC or other divisions, >who play "wimpy" basketball. Huh? Who has not been following what basketball? The ACC has not been playing "wimpy" basketball for a while. It certainly isn't obvious to me in watching that the Big 10 is any more physical than the ACC these days. -- Byron C. Howes ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch
foz@ihlpf.UUCP (Thompson) (02/17/86)
Well it seems that Michigan once again proved to a national audience that it is an awesome team by whipping Iowa last Saturday (82-66). Even George Raveling was in awe over the Wolverines! Some quotes from him after the game: "Michigan has three subs (Henderson, Thompson, and Rice) that could start for 95% of the Division I schools (what I said last week)" "Playing against Michigan is like the U.S. versus Libya - boy would I hate to be Kadaffi" "I wish we could trade players - I'd give three Big Macs and a Coke for Henderson right now" See, even other coaches love Michigan! Bring on North Carolina! Bill Thompson ...ihnp4!ihlpf!foz
shari@rosevax.UUCP (Shari Nelson) (02/18/86)
> Well it seems that Michigan once again proved to a national audience > that it is an awesome team by whipping Iowa last Saturday (82-66). > Even George Raveling was in awe over the Wolverines! SO WHAT!! Iowa is 6-6 in Big 10 play and their loss to the Wolves was their 3rd straight defeat. They lost to Minnesota's 5 man team last Sunday, and to Mich. State on Thursday. Michigan is good, but they are too inconsistent (remember the game in Minneapolis?!!! 75-65 Gopher victory - before the team was dismantled) -- ..!ihnp4!rosevax!shari Shari Nelson Rosemount Inc. 12001 W. 78th St. Eden Prairie, Mn. 55344 A MINNESOTA GOPHER fan forever!!! [5m [7m GO GOLDEN GOPHERS [m
lww@rti-sel.UUCP (Leo Weisbecker) (02/20/86)
UM = University of Missed Again
ylee@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (02/21/86)
> Michigan is good, but they are too inconsistent (remember the > game in Minneapolis?!!! 75-65 Gopher victory - before the team > was dismantled) Hey, wait a minute, Michigan is pretttty CONSISTENT as far as Michigan State is concerned --- Final from Ann Arbor, Michigan: Michigan State 74 Michigan 59 This is only the second solid defeat (loss by more than 10 points) for UM basketball offered by MSU this season. Yea, you wolves fans will say that Michigan will bounce back and take the NCAA crown in Dollas, right? Dream on!!! There is always next year!!!
sauder@nbs-amrf.UUCP (Jeff Sauder) (02/21/86)
> Well it seems that Michigan once again proved to a national audience > that it is an awesome team by whipping Iowa last Saturday (82-66). > "Michigan has three subs (Henderson, Thompson, and Rice) that could > start for 95% of the Division I schools (what I said last week)" > "Playing against Michigan is like the U.S. versus Libya - boy would I > hate to be Kadaffi" > See, even other coaches love Michigan! Bring on North Carolina! > Bill Thompson > ...ihnp4!ihlpf!foz Was it my imagination, or did Michigan lose to Michigan State last night? Bring on North Carolina? Len Bias, certainly one of the top three or four players in the NCAA, along with the rest of the Maryland Terrapins, beat North Carolina last evening 77-72 in overtime -- in the Dean Smith arena! I think perhaps that Duke will be rated number one in the next rankings. I still think North Carolina is the better team, but Duke has played better and deserves the honor. Let's hear more about the really good teams and less about Michigan, okay? -- Long live the ACC! Jeff Sauder {seismo,umcp-cs}!nbs-amrf!sauder
foz@ihlpf.UUCP (Thompson) (02/24/86)
> UM = University of Missed Again
I hardly think so - look who is on top of the Big Ten again!